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re: Drew Brees omitted from NFL’s all-time team
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:38 pm to AUFANATL
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:38 pm to AUFANATL
quote:
he's great but he had the misfortune of being born during the same era as THREE others who were (arguably) the best to ever play.
And outperformed them in every positional statistical category and multiple times on the field.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:41 pm to Bench McElroy
Pro football reference Approximate Value average per season played:
Peyton Manning - 15.06
Tom Brady - 13.45
Brett Favre - 12.75
Dan Marino - 12.71
John Elway - 12.69
Roger Staubach - 11.64
John Unitas - 10.36 (1960 - 1973)
Joe Montana - 10.25
Sammy Baugh - no rating (before 1960)
Otto Graham - no rating (before 1960)
Brees - 13.47
Tarkenton - 13.11
I understand the Championships of Roger, Johnny, and Joe, but that is a team stat.
Brees not ranked =
LINK
Peyton Manning - 15.06
Tom Brady - 13.45
Brett Favre - 12.75
Dan Marino - 12.71
John Elway - 12.69
Roger Staubach - 11.64
John Unitas - 10.36 (1960 - 1973)
Joe Montana - 10.25
Sammy Baugh - no rating (before 1960)
Otto Graham - no rating (before 1960)
Brees - 13.47
Tarkenton - 13.11
I understand the Championships of Roger, Johnny, and Joe, but that is a team stat.
Brees not ranked =
LINK
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:44 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:
Tarkenton - 13.11
Damn, didn't even think about him. Really goes to show how lazy and skewed this type of crap is.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:45 pm to sms151t
quote:
If you think Brees belongs over Staubach
Maybe not Staubach but there are names on that list that do not belong on there more than Brees or Rodgers
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:46 pm to SaintEB
You need to compare brees v the league average and what the other guys did compared to league average. KIRK cousins and romo are both top 5 all time at passer rating. You can’t compare passing stats today with those of the past as an apples to apples.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:46 pm to WicKed WayZ
OT’s favorite baw Sammy Baw made it?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:46 pm to AUFANATL
quote:
Would anybody put Timmy Chang or Case Keenum on a list for top all-time college QBs?
If they played on a power 5 team that won something of relevance? Yea probably. Bad comparison
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:52 pm to Bench McElroy
No Bradshaw? 4 in 6 years, frick a staunch and marine too
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:55 pm to Bench McElroy
I always take these things with a grain of salt. A decade from now breeze will be on the list in one of those other guys will be dropped. There will always be some superstar who is lightning in a bottle that will be the next big thing. Some dude on a message board will be pissed off because that guy is not on the list. It is what it is.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:55 pm to sms151t
quote:lol... This is based on nothing.
If you think Brees belongs over Staubach you are just jaded
quote:Brett Favre doesn't have meow titles than Brees and sure as shite wasn't remotely a better QB than Brees. Not even close.
But when you look at the list all have multiple NFL Titles
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:56 pm to Bench McElroy
these things are so stupid. why do y’all get so
worked up
worked up
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:56 pm to AUFANATL
quote:And he's also arguably better than those guys too.
Brees is like Andy Murray - he's great but he had the misfortune of being born during the same era as THREE others who were (arguably) the best to ever play.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:56 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
You need to compare brees v the league average and what the other guys did compared to league average. KIRK cousins and romo are both top 5 all time at passer rating. You can’t compare passing stats today with those of the past as an apples to apples.
If that's the case, how come there wasn't a single CB who primarily played during the 21st century that made the all-time 100 team? CBs such as Champ Bailey, Charles Woodson, and Darrelle Revis had it way harder than the defensive backs of years past and still dominated yet none of them made the list.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:57 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Well, do we do the same with Brady? Because Brees outpaces Brady if we're comparing to a league average.
You need to compare brees v the league average and what the other guys did compared to league average. KIRK cousins and romo are both top 5 all time at passer rating. You can’t compare passing stats today with those of the past as an apples to apples.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:59 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:Wait, Champ Bailey and Charles Woodson didn't make the 10 best defensive back list?
Champ Bailey, Charles Woodson, and Darrelle Revis had it way harder than the defensive backs of years past and still dominated yet none of them made the list.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
You need to compare brees v the league average and what the other guys did compared to league average. KIRK cousins and romo are both top 5 all time at passer rating. You can’t compare passing stats today with those of the past as an apples to apples.
Drew compares very favorably to his peers. You know that.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:02 pm to Bench McElroy
While I think Brees should be on an all-time team, I'm not surprised at him not making the list. Always thought no MVPs would hurt him in something like this.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:02 pm to WinnPtiger
quote:
these things are so stupid. why do y’all get so
worked up
Sports are stupid in general, yet here we all are.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:04 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:
While I think Brees should be on an all-time team, I'm not surprised at him not making the list. Always thought no MVPs would hurt him in something like this.
No MVPs points to how underrated he's been. He was named offensive POtY in a year where Rodgers won MVP. Think about that absurdity.
Fwiw, Staubach has no MVPs either. The love he's getting in this thread is simply Cowboys nostalgia.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:05 pm to shel311
quote:
meow titles
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