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re: Dolphins potentially listening to trade offers for Jarvis Landry?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:01 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:01 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
I can't believe you are really arguing that athleticism cannot be measured. When every player going into the NFL runs through the same exact drills year after year, you have a sample size of metrics, ran over the same distances with the same exact variables.
I'm asking you to provide what metric you're using. You keep dodging the question. Just answer it
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:01 pm to lsufball19
quote:There is data to argue top 10 WRs, there is just as much data to argue which athletes are more athletic than others.
I'm at least arguing based on measurable production
No difference.
Because you don't see something in a boxscore or stats page on ESPN does not mean there's any less data to measure it.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:02 pm to shel311
quote:
But he's all about the top 10 WR "measurable"
No I'm about his production has been top 10 in yards and reception and top 15 in ypc. So yes, based on those numbers he is not outside the top 25.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:02 pm to Lester Earl
very basic example
5'11"
205
4.77 40yd
28.5" vert
09'02" broad jump
7.56 3 cone
6'0"
209
4.42 40
36 vert
10'05" broad jump
7.01 3 cone
Both of these guys play the same position. They are nearly identical in size. Are you telling me you cannot sit there and determine who the better athlete is? There is nothing subjective about it
5'11"
205
4.77 40yd
28.5" vert
09'02" broad jump
7.56 3 cone
6'0"
209
4.42 40
36 vert
10'05" broad jump
7.01 3 cone
Both of these guys play the same position. They are nearly identical in size. Are you telling me you cannot sit there and determine who the better athlete is? There is nothing subjective about it
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:03 pm to shel311
quote:
Because you don't see something in a boxscore or stats page on ESPN does not mean there's any less data to measure it.
Show me any list, subjective or otherwise, that has Landry outside the top 25 in the NFL.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:04 pm to lsufball19
quote:
I'm asking you to provide what metric you're using. You keep dodging the question. Just answer it
I thought it was clear that they use combine numbers. Same drills, same turf, same watches year after year.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:04 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Both of these guys play the same position. They are nearly identical in size. Are you telling me you cannot sit there and determine who the better athlete is? There is nothing subjective about it
Ok, you're making steps to answer a direct question. Now show me the list where Landry is in the 9th percentile of WRs
The funny thing is Landry is viewed as a top 10-15 WR by his peers, coaches, and the fans. He will be paid like one. He produces like one. Yet your stance is he isn't one because of his combine numbers. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:08 pm to lsufball19
I'll show you when you acknowledge that you are 100% wrong how bout dat
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:09 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
I'll show you when you acknowledge that you are 100% wrong how bout dat
Wrong about what?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:09 pm to lsufball19
Athleticism not being measurable
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:09 pm to lsufball19
quote:
Ok, you're making steps to answer a direct question. Now show me the list where Landry is in the 9th percentile of WRs
LINK
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:14 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Athleticism not being measurable
it's not. Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:14 pm to lsufball19
quote:
The funny thing is Landry is viewed as a top 10-15 WR by his peers,
WAT
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:15 pm to BilJ
quote:
WAT
The NFL's top 100 players, voted on by the players, had Landry as the 42nd overall player and 7th among WRs
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:17 pm to lsufball19
quote:
Athleticism not being measurable it's not.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:18 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
That list is a joke.
It's voted on by his peers no?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:19 pm to lsufball19
I have no idea. All I know is that Peyton Manning was voted as the 3rd best QB in 2015. No one takes that list seriously.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:20 pm to lsufball19
quote:But top 10 WR is
it's not
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:22 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
I have no idea. All I know is that Peyton Manning was voted as the 3rd best QB in 2015. No one takes that list seriously.
Again, I said he is viewed by his peers as a top 10-15 WR. There is a list available where the players vote on the top players in the league. Said list has Landry well within the top 10-15 WRs in the NFL. Therefore, regardless of how you may view the list, saying his peers view him as a top 10-15 WR, based on what we have available to us, is not an untrue statement.
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