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re: Does the Fact that Only 9 Teams Have Won in 30 Years Help or Hurt the NBA?

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Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:48 pm to
NFL Super Bowl Winners since 1983


Redskins: 3

Raiders: 1

49ers: 4

Bears: 1

Giants: 4

Cowboys: 3

Packers: 2

Broncos: 2

Rams: 1

Ravens: 2

Patriots: 3

Bucs: 1

Steelers: 2

Colts: 1

Saints: 1

15 different teams in 30 years. Not bad.

Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:50 pm to
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Why the frick would you get rid of the Jazz?
Why would you get rid of any team?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:51 pm to
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Does the Fact that Only 9 Teams Have Won in 30 Years Help or Hurt the NBA?



NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NBA.........................
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:52 pm to
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Why would you get rid of any team?



Um, there are franchises that are drowning.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:53 pm to
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Do people actually think getting rid of 4 teams will make the NBA more competitive and/or better?


I say go to 24 teams (12 per conference). In doing so, 6 teams of 12 players get distributed to the rest of the league which rids the league of the watered down product.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:55 pm to
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15 different teams in 30 years. Not bad.


Not only that but the NFL has taken steps in recent years to allow teams that are 3-13 make the Super Bowl the next year. You will never see the Bobcats go from worst record to the Finals.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 6:56 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 6:55 pm to
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I say go to 24 teams (12 per conference). In doing so, 6 teams of 12 players get distributed to the rest of the league which rids the league of the watered down product.


There were 23 teams in the early 80's. I think it's time to get back to that number or near it.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 6:56 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:00 pm to
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Why the frick would you get rid of the Jazz?


I just threw them in for no reason. The Pels were my main focus in the troll.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:03 pm to
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Not only that but the NFL has taken steps in recent years to allow teams that are 3-13 make the Super Bowl the next year. You will never see the Bobcats go from worst record to the Finals.


but the Celtics did...

parity is overrated... it just makes the championships not mean anything if it goes unchecked

john Curtis wins 2A football every year basically, but if someone were to beat them, it'd be a big deal and that championship would mean more than one where 8 different teams win in 10 years for example

if your team doesn't win, you measure them by "are they closer to a title than they were a year ago?"
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:05 pm to
If you want parity then eliminate the 7 game series. Take the 16 teams that make it to the finals and have a playoff bracket similar to the sweet 16 in college Bball.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:06 pm to
Dojo, there isn't a single NBA team in the red. Not a single one. Most owners use these teams as tax shelters when in reality, they are making bank.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:07 pm to
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but the Celtics did


Wasn't that pre-Stern? Those who say parity is overrated say that because they are fans of a constant winner.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:08 pm to
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Take the 16 teams


That is a problem in itself. There is no reason more than half the league makes the playoffs. The NFL has the perfect number of teams. Have a Bye for the top seeds. Also, go back to best of 5 in the first round.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:09 pm to
No shite. If Ohio State wins 5 national championships in a row I'm calling for parity. If Alabama does it all is right with the world.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:10 pm to
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Dojo, there isn't a single NBA team in the red. Not a single one. Most owners use these teams as tax shelters when in reality, they are making bank.


Per Forbes (2012):

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12 teams posted five-year averages in the red, and the NBA’s least profitable team is the Charlotte Bobcats. The massive losses are the reason Michael Jordan was able to buy a majority stake in the Bobcats (he previously was a minority owner) in a deal that valued the franchise at the fire-sale price of $175 million in March 2010. Jordan also pledged $100 million to cover the team’s losses which have picked up in recent seasons. The team has lost an average $20 million over the last three seasons, $6 million more than any other team in that period.


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The biggest exception to the major market rule is the Dallas Mavericks, who have not made money since 2002 despite playing in the fourth-most populous metro area and winning the NBA Finals last season. They rank at No. 26 with a five-year average loss of $8.9 million.


LINK
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:15 pm to
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Wasn't that pre-Stern? Those who say parity is overrated say that because they are fans of a constant winner.


no this was when they got Allen and Garnett... they went from 24-58 to 66-16
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:17 pm to
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no this was when they got Allen and Garnett...


Well duh, if you form a super team of course it's possible. I'm talking becoming a contender through the draft. The Panthers and Jags made the Championship games in less than 5 years of even existing. The only time that happened in the NBA was the Magic.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:17 pm to
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Saints: 1


Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2558 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:18 pm to
The lack of parity helps. Most teams that win titles have stars people love seeing win/lose in the playoffs and this goes across multiple fan bases.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:19 pm to
Dude I know the business side of sports. There isn't a single NFL or NBA team in the red. They cook the books like all hell (paying themselves rental fees for arena/stadium usage, setting aside a healthcare "fund" for their volunteers and all kinds of other tomfoolery). Forbes is a great site and magazine and all, but they are EXTREMELY naive if they really believe that any franchise in the NFL or NBA is losing money.
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