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re: Do you think Guan Tianlang deserves all these sponsor exemptions?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:48 pm to PhiTiger1764
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:48 pm to PhiTiger1764
why? 2 for 3 in cuts made, including the Masters and the birdie fest in New Orleans, lot of pros call that a good month
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:50 pm to threeputt
shite, a few weeks ago Guan and Janzen played in the same tournament. Guan shot 72, 69 to make the cut and Janzen shot 73, 71 to miss the cut. But yeah, Janzn's better and should get the exemption eventhough the kid out performed him head to head.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:51 pm to JG77056
i would say Daly and Duval have a better chance of winning any given week where Guan doesnt
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:52 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
You can laugh and leave all you want, generally the better golfer is the one shooting lower scores though.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:53 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Well he's making cuts and they aren't. Kinda hard to win on Sunday when you aren't playing.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:54 pm to JG77056
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If they had won anything recently they wouldn't need the sponsors exemption. I guess a better question would be when was the last time a sponsor's exemption won the tournament?
I don't know the answer to that, but a few weeks ago a 22 yr old rookie won the Wells Fargo after barely getting into the tournament as the 4th alternate. He was ranked 1207 in the world. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. Anyone can win.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:56 pm to JG77056
yeah, but after he made the cut both times he crashed on the weekend. i'm all for him getting in tournaments, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he's better than anyone.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:58 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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why?
He is clearly being given these exemptions because he is 14. I have no problem with this since he is an amateur. But sponsor's exemptions are generally reserved for pros who have always played at that tournament in the past or a local guy. If he were a pro, there would be no reason for him to be given the exemption over anyone else.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:59 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Anyone can win.
So then why would anybody have a problem with this kid playing?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:01 pm to JG77056
If he somehow qualifies for the US open, he is going to miss the cut by a mile if he doesn't hit every fairway. He's not strong enough to hit out of the rough
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:02 pm to JG77056
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So then why would anybody have a problem with this kid playing?
I don't (because he is an amateur). If he were a pro, he hasn't really done anything to earn all of these exemptions compared to others trying to earn exemptions.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:04 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
He's not playing in any US Open qualifiers anymore, so that's out.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:04 pm to JG77056
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So then why would anybody have a problem with this kid playing?
Because if I am on tour trying to earn enough money to feed my family & get some kind of status on tour and they give an exemption that I am in line for to a circus act then I would be pissed ..
Once again if i am in the field, I would love love love it. One I can beat the kid and two he is an amateur which means he aint taking away money from the purse.
But the question in the OP was does he deserve these exemptions. NO frickING WAY .. What has he done in the professional game that is better than the other guys who are trying to get the same exemption?????
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:17 pm to threeputt
Well he's beaten over half of them in 2 of his 3 tournaments in the US for starters.
Any of your former major winners struggling to feed their families?
Again, he is beating professional tour players on the reg. It's not like he's qualifying and finishing last.
I still want to know how John Daly, Lee Janzen, and David Duval are better than this kid right now.
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Because if I am on tour trying to earn enough money to feed my family & get some kind of status on tour and they give an exemption that I am in line for to a circus act then I would be pissed ..
Any of your former major winners struggling to feed their families?
Again, he is beating professional tour players on the reg. It's not like he's qualifying and finishing last.
I still want to know how John Daly, Lee Janzen, and David Duval are better than this kid right now.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:21 pm to JG77056
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I still want to know how John Daly, Lee Janzen, and David Duval are better than this kid right now.
I'm glad you took such a large sample size of data (3 tournaments) to determine that this 14 yr old kid is better than seasoned veterans.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:31 pm to JG77056
You seriously don't see the issue tour players would have with a sponsors exemption amateur taking their spot in a tournament?
I know people that play professional golf for a living and while it is cool as shite it's also a helluva way to try and scratch out a living. Most tour players aren't rich by any stretch of the imagination, frankly I think those who are 40+ and doing their best just to get by would LOVE LOVE LOVE to have a regular 9-5 job making $80-100k/yr.
Pro's have a shelf life and those trying to make a living probably aren't thrilled to give their spot up to a 14 year old chinese boy trying to scratch out even par when they have a car note and a mortgage due the next week.
I know people that play professional golf for a living and while it is cool as shite it's also a helluva way to try and scratch out a living. Most tour players aren't rich by any stretch of the imagination, frankly I think those who are 40+ and doing their best just to get by would LOVE LOVE LOVE to have a regular 9-5 job making $80-100k/yr.
Pro's have a shelf life and those trying to make a living probably aren't thrilled to give their spot up to a 14 year old chinese boy trying to scratch out even par when they have a car note and a mortgage due the next week.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:33 pm to PhiTiger1764
I can only go with the data I have. That data says this kid makes cuts and the other 3 mentioned don't. And one of them was even playing against the kid in one of the tournaments.
What sort of recent tournament statistics do we have on Duval, Daly or Janzen? Are you trying to say the kid can't be better then them because he hasn't played in enough tournaments?
What sort of recent tournament statistics do we have on Duval, Daly or Janzen? Are you trying to say the kid can't be better then them because he hasn't played in enough tournaments?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:37 pm to PhiTiger1764
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I still want to know how lee janzen, john daly and david duval are better than this kid right now
You seem to like stats and data .. Well ALL three have a better stroke average than the kid THIS year.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:41 pm to threeputt
Playing the same courses? Or are you saying they're all alike and scoring across different courses is exactly the same.
For instance, how many rounds of theirs were on par 70 courses?
For instance, how many rounds of theirs were on par 70 courses?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:41 pm to mytigger
All of those pros struggling to pay the bills are more than free to go and find a 9 to 5 job. Those guys wouldn't have a house to live in if not for the "fans" showing interest in their sport. You know who the fans want to see? Guan-a-lana-Ting-Lang.
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