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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:44 am to VerlanderBEAST
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No but they shouldn't have to wait 3 years to get paid because of a nonsensical NFL rule either
This only applies to like 0.1% of college athletes.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:47 am to The Mick
Who says they don't get paid?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:53 am to LordSaintly
quote:See every company in America for the answer.
How on Earth is it fair to not pay every athlete? A&M's third string defensive tackle works just as a hard in practice as Johnny Manziel. You would really tell him "sorry, you're not a star, so you don't get paid"? Keep that in the pros.
Construction workers work just as hard as the CEO of the company, they don't make the same amount of money.
Supply/demand. Free market system, its basically what America is built on lol.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:04 am to The Mick
I 100% support playing college athletes in any sport. Let them make as much money as they can.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:06 am to LordSaintly
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How on Earth is it fair to not pay every athlete? A&M's third string defensive tackle works just as a hard in practice as Johnny Manziel. You would really tell him "sorry, you're not a star, so you don't get paid"? Keep that in the pros.
Why does the CEO at Wal Mart make more than some unskilled new hire?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:08 am to The Mick
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For me, Id be against straight paying players a salary, but if a kid can get someone to pay him for his autograph or to show up at a luncheon I say go for it.
Extremely shortsighted.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:09 am to pvilleguru
Yes, give them cost of living scholarships and let them make money off of their names and likenesses. Its stupid that they are the basis of a multi billion dollar enterprise but make no money from it.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:11 am to The Mick
I think if someone wants to pay them for services or autographs then someone should be able to.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:13 am to moneyg
If they want to get paid like if they were an employee of the school maybe they should give up all or part of their scholarship and figure out their own way to pay for school. On the flip side I don't think the pro leagues should put an age limit on their players. As far as I know this only happens in the NFL and NBA. If the NFL doesn't think 18 or 19 year olds are ready to play pro they should have a minor league system.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:15 am to The Mick
I will never understand the argument that players already get paid, so I oppose them getting paid. If they are already getting paid, then we're just quibbling over price and it's not a big deal. What's a little more?
I'd like to see college players be able to make an unlimited amount on anything not directed by the university. Local car dealership wants to use you in an ad? Knock yourself out. Sign 10,000 autographs? Enjoy. As long as it is not directed by the program, I am cool with it. I also think players should be able to hire agents to help them negotiate deals and make a better choice on when to turn pro. It's insane that they can't hire an agent until they've already declared pro. That's the part of the decision it would help to have professional aid with.
Then I additionally support a $4000 annual stipend as part of all FBS scholarships in all sports. If you get a partial schollie, you get a partial stipend in the same proportion. You get a full ride to pay volleyball, you get the stipend, broken up by semester. I'm not sure how many full schollies we give, so let's guess around 300. 300 x $4000 is $1.2 million per program. That's an assistant coach. If you can't afford that, you shouldn't be playing FBS football. Drop a level.
I'd like to see college players be able to make an unlimited amount on anything not directed by the university. Local car dealership wants to use you in an ad? Knock yourself out. Sign 10,000 autographs? Enjoy. As long as it is not directed by the program, I am cool with it. I also think players should be able to hire agents to help them negotiate deals and make a better choice on when to turn pro. It's insane that they can't hire an agent until they've already declared pro. That's the part of the decision it would help to have professional aid with.
Then I additionally support a $4000 annual stipend as part of all FBS scholarships in all sports. If you get a partial schollie, you get a partial stipend in the same proportion. You get a full ride to pay volleyball, you get the stipend, broken up by semester. I'm not sure how many full schollies we give, so let's guess around 300. 300 x $4000 is $1.2 million per program. That's an assistant coach. If you can't afford that, you shouldn't be playing FBS football. Drop a level.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:19 am to The Mick
Contrary to popular belief, not many schools can afford to pay all athletes. You can't just pay the football team because then you'd have the women's sports all lining up for a paycheck and title 9 knocking on the door.
The only way this could ever happen is if 15-20 of the biggest football programs left the ncaa for football only, and formed a league that paid players.
Anything aside from that and a set payment would be a huge mess. Autograph signings, promotions, etc would all be abused to lure top recruits.
The only way this could ever happen is if 15-20 of the biggest football programs left the ncaa for football only, and formed a league that paid players.
Anything aside from that and a set payment would be a huge mess. Autograph signings, promotions, etc would all be abused to lure top recruits.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:21 am to The Mick
No, other than tuition, books, and small standard stipend.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:21 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:How's that any different than what goes in now with bigger schools?
Autograph signings, promotions, etc would all be abused to lure top recruits.
Think Oregon lol.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:22 am to bayoujd
quote:Why not? Some athletes are clearly worth substantially more than the value of these things.
No, other than tuition, books, and small standard stipend
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:25 am to shel311
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:30 am to duggieblue
quote:Pell grants? That isn't athlete-specific, and not every player is eligible, that's laughable to even bring up IMO.
Yes, and they already are.
The number he derived is silly since it's not the number every player can receive. It's also incorrect according to his numbers, they do not receive $17k in "cash" since part of his calcuations are for room and board, that's not cash.
It's also silly because some players are worth a heck of a lot more than $17k per semeseter.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:09 pm to shel311
A living stipend would be the right move. Anything further threatens to topple our whole system, how do you pay for non-revenue sports if football money is going straight to the players?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:13 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:You realize the system is in the process of slowly being toppled now, right?
Anything further threatens to topple our whole system
quote:Endorsements that come from entities that aren't related to the university.
how do you pay for non-revenue sports if football money is going straight to the players?
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