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Do large state schools "owe" it to the smaller in state schools to play them in sports?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:05 pm
spin off i guess from the arky threads over on the SEC rant about how arkansas has literally never hosted any in state school in fayetteville for any regular season major sporting event in their entire history until the baseball game last night
where does the MSB stand on this topic? at what point do these schools ever "owe" it to their fellow citizens to play some of the little brothers? do they even have that obligation to do so? and if so, where do we draw the line? if we say that schools should play their smaller in state brethren, does that extend to ever playing games on the campuses of those schools every now and again?
where does the MSB stand on this topic? at what point do these schools ever "owe" it to their fellow citizens to play some of the little brothers? do they even have that obligation to do so? and if so, where do we draw the line? if we say that schools should play their smaller in state brethren, does that extend to ever playing games on the campuses of those schools every now and again?
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:07 pm to WestCoastAg
Pretty sure Louisiana mandated that LSU has to play other instate schools. Makes sense to keep all the money here instead of playing teams from the same conferences as ULM, Tech, etc and sending that money to Arkansas/Alabama.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:10 pm to WestCoastAg
They don’t owe it to go play at the smaller schools.
If you’re going to schedule games against smaller schools and pay them to come play, I’d rather that go to an in state team.
Obviously I don’t think they should exclusively play in state schools, but I don’t think they should actively avoid scheduling them either.
If you’re going to schedule games against smaller schools and pay them to come play, I’d rather that go to an in state team.
Obviously I don’t think they should exclusively play in state schools, but I don’t think they should actively avoid scheduling them either.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:13 pm to WestCoastAg
They don't owe it to them, but it makes fiscal sense for the big public universities to pay to host the smaller public schools instead of paying to host OOS schools
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:13 pm to WestCoastAg
LSU is an odd situation. There’s not a small school that is a viable threat to beat them. Therefore, we have no problem keeping the money in state.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:13 pm to WestCoastAg
I don’t think they “owe” it to them, but I don’t get how some schools just refuse to play smaller ones in state. Arkansas doesn’t play Arkansas State in anything, last I checked.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:18 pm to WestCoastAg
Keeps money in state. Also a great way for ut to subsidize ut rio grande valley
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:18 pm to burdman
quote:i feel like this is where i fall on this
If you’re going to schedule games against smaller schools and pay them to come play, I’d rather that go to an in state team.
Obviously I don’t think they should exclusively play in state schools, but I don’t think they should actively avoid scheduling them either.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:22 pm to WestCoastAg
i know michigan state had a series set up between EMU, WMU, and CMU where they would actually visit their campus for a football game. i think they only made one visit, to WMU a few years back, before cancelling it
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:29 pm to WestCoastAg
My opinion is if you are going to schedule a cupcake, at least make it an in state cupcake so their is some added benefit for all involved
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:00 am to WestCoastAg
WCA this has nothing to do with your thread therefore deserves to get downvoted but I just had to tell you how happy I am that I drafted Cody Bellinger in fantasy
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:30 am to WestCoastAg
I don't think they owe it to the smaller schools, but they do owe it to the state's taxpayers.
State schools should try to keep as much money in state as possible. That also means playing as few neutral site games as possible.
Can you imagine the economic impact on a city like Tuscaloosa if Alabama hosted a semifinal near New Year's? Probably at least $30 million.
State schools should try to keep as much money in state as possible. That also means playing as few neutral site games as possible.
Can you imagine the economic impact on a city like Tuscaloosa if Alabama hosted a semifinal near New Year's? Probably at least $30 million.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:29 am to NorceauxTigerFan
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LSU is an odd situation. There’s not a small school that is a viable threat to beat them. Therefore, we have no problem keeping the money in state.
I don't think we are just talking football here. But, contrary to the way The Rant acts, I don't think it's nearly as big a deal when they lose a midweek game to an in-state school in baseball. Basketball might sting a little more, but it's still not as significant as a loss in football would be.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:54 am to NorceauxTigerFan
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LSU is an odd situation. There’s not a small school that is a viable threat to beat them
Yea we pay teams from Alabama to beat us instead
Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:28 am to WestCoastAg
As long as they don’t run the triple option
So frick you Wofford and Citadel
So frick you Wofford and Citadel
Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:49 am to WestCoastAg
quote:I hate that stuff. A contract is a contract
. i think they only made one visit, to WMU a few years back, before cancelling it
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:01 am to WestCoastAg
They don't owe it to them, but as others have said, if you are going to play OOC schools, then why not do it?
As for playing at the small school's location, I don't know if that would ever make financial sense. Maybe for baseball, and possibly for basketball, but never for football.
For a football hypothetical (and with hypothetical numbers), let's say Bama and Troy agree to play. Game is in Tuscaloosa. The ticket in BDS is $40 and they sell 75,000 seats for gross revenue of 3 million. They pay Troy a million to come play, and then spend $750,000 on security, gameday personnel, etc. Bama pockets 1.25 million.
Same as above, Bama and Troy, but they play in Troy, in a stadium that holds 30,000. Troy sells that ticket for $70. They gross 2.1 million in sales, but have to pay $500,000 on security, game day personnel, etc. Troy pockets 1.6 million, but Bama makes nothing.
Bama won't ever make that deal because they get nothing out of the deal. Troy will gladly go to Tuscaloosa and not argue about it because losing out on a potential $600,000 is less than losing out on a sure million.
As for playing at the small school's location, I don't know if that would ever make financial sense. Maybe for baseball, and possibly for basketball, but never for football.
For a football hypothetical (and with hypothetical numbers), let's say Bama and Troy agree to play. Game is in Tuscaloosa. The ticket in BDS is $40 and they sell 75,000 seats for gross revenue of 3 million. They pay Troy a million to come play, and then spend $750,000 on security, gameday personnel, etc. Bama pockets 1.25 million.
Same as above, Bama and Troy, but they play in Troy, in a stadium that holds 30,000. Troy sells that ticket for $70. They gross 2.1 million in sales, but have to pay $500,000 on security, game day personnel, etc. Troy pockets 1.6 million, but Bama makes nothing.
Bama won't ever make that deal because they get nothing out of the deal. Troy will gladly go to Tuscaloosa and not argue about it because losing out on a potential $600,000 is less than losing out on a sure million.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:08 am to WestCoastAg
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Do large state schools "owe" it to the smaller in state schools to play them in sports?
No, Texas doesn't owe it to aTm to play.
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