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re: Did any of you know who Jason Collins was before today?
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:35 am to The Future
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:35 am to The Future
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If you believe in Christianity it's a sin
False.
Many Christian denominations realize that it is as sinful as being left handed (which by the way was considered evil back in the day).
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:40 am to Sophandros
quote:I'd struggle calling them Christians if they don't believe the Bible.
Many Christian denominations
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:46 am to beaverfever
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I'd struggle calling them Christians if they don't believe the Bible
They are Christians who are not sola scriptura.
Biblical literalism is akin to idol worship, only instead of worshiping a statue you're worshiping a book.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:48 am to Sophandros
quote:This is the main reason I don't call myself a Christian. I agree 100 percent. The problem is at that point your basically just creating your own religion (which is perfectly fine by me).
Biblical literalism is akin to idol worship, only instead of worshiping a statue you're worshiping a book.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:56 am to beaverfever
No, you're not creating a religion. You're evolving.
It says that women are to remain silent in church. If people are to take the Bible literally, rather than taking context, etc. into account, then women would, in fact, be silent in churches.
But we understand why Paul wrote what he wrote when he wrote it and thus we know why those particular words are not relevant in today's churches. The same holds true for the condemnations found in Leviticus, which is where you will find references to shellfish, clothes of mixed cloth, shaving, and homosexuality.
It says that women are to remain silent in church. If people are to take the Bible literally, rather than taking context, etc. into account, then women would, in fact, be silent in churches.
But we understand why Paul wrote what he wrote when he wrote it and thus we know why those particular words are not relevant in today's churches. The same holds true for the condemnations found in Leviticus, which is where you will find references to shellfish, clothes of mixed cloth, shaving, and homosexuality.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:57 am to Sophandros
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Biblical literalism is akin to idol worship, only instead of worshiping a statue you're worshiping a book.
Wow
Just wow.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:59 am to The Future
I see you have no solid rebuttal.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:01 am to Sophandros
I have plenty of rebuttal, I'm trying not to start an argument in this thread, the last one got whacked
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:05 am to The Future
You really don't.
You're a bigot and a coward who is hiding behind scripture.
You're no better than an Al Quada terrorist. At least they are honest and consistent.
You're a bigot and a coward who is hiding behind scripture.
You're no better than an Al Quada terrorist. At least they are honest and consistent.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:06 am to Sophandros
When do yall honestly think ESPN will stop talking about this?
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:10 am to Cosmo
yeah, been knowing since he was in college. saw a lot more of him the past few yrs as a Hawk. Twin was our Dwight stopper!
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:17 am to Sophandros
You think women should be allowed to speak in church? I don't think they should be allowed to speak anywhere.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:24 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
You think women should be allowed to speak in church? I don't think they should be allowed to speak anywhere.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:32 am to Sophandros
quote:That's a really slippery slope. I admit the new testament is much more open minded and open to interpretation. But you have to draw some lines or your just picking and choosing what you want to believe. If the Bible is fallible then you don't have to believe what Jesus said. That's a pretty fundamental element of Christianity.
No, you're not creating a religion. You're evolving.
It says that women are to remain silent in church. If people are to take the Bible literally, rather than taking context, etc. into account, then women would, in fact, be silent in churches.
But we understand why Paul wrote what he wrote when he wrote it and thus we know why those particular words are not relevant in today's churches. The same holds true for the condemnations found in Leviticus, which is where you will find references to shellfish, clothes of mixed cloth, shaving, and homosexuality.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:36 am to beaverfever
Focus on what Jesus said. The rest is open to interpretation.
Here is what Jesus says about homosexuality:
So being accepting of gay people and recognizing them as normal is not against Jesus' s teaching.
Even if you DO believe that simply being gay is a sin, think about what Jesus says about those who sin..and more about what those who are without sin should do...
Here is what Jesus says about homosexuality:
quote:
So being accepting of gay people and recognizing them as normal is not against Jesus' s teaching.
Even if you DO believe that simply being gay is a sin, think about what Jesus says about those who sin..and more about what those who are without sin should do...
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:12 am to Sophandros
Insulting me isn't going to make me validate your statement with a response.
If you have to resort to attacking me, obviously you're not as good of a debater as you think
If you have to resort to attacking me, obviously you're not as good of a debater as you think
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:13 am to Sophandros
You have no clue. Quit reading Wikipedia for your facts
Iñ the new testament, Paul referenced the punishment of homosexuality 3 times
And if you don't want to accept Pauls words then get out of Christianity altogether, because it was Paul that battled Peter for the right of gentiles to even be a part of the new kingdom. He obviously knows his stuff
Iñ the new testament, Paul referenced the punishment of homosexuality 3 times
quote:
Romans 1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
quote:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version (1611): "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"
And if you don't want to accept Pauls words then get out of Christianity altogether, because it was Paul that battled Peter for the right of gentiles to even be a part of the new kingdom. He obviously knows his stuff
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:16 am to League Champs
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You have no clue. Quit reading Wikipedia for your facts
It's not worth arguing with him, he will ignore facts and claim he "wins" the argument.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:18 am to Sophandros
quote:
Focus on what Jesus said. The rest is open to interpretation.
quote:I agree.
So being accepting of gay people and recognizing them as normal is not against Jesus' s teaching.
quote:I agree with this as well.
Even if you DO believe that simply being gay is a sin, think about what Jesus says about those who sin
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:20 am to The Future
quote:
Insulting me isn't going to make me validate your statement with a response.
I didn't insult you. I made a valid comparison.
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