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re: Did any of you know who Jason Collins was before today?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:10 pm to RTR America
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:10 pm to RTR America
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People will forget about this story in a few weeks after he goes on every morning show.
Tomorrow's ESPN lead story :
Who will sign Tebow ?
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:10 pm to Cosmo
Nope.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:12 pm to Cosmo
Nope. Still waiting for someone that is worth a shite to come out.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:15 pm to LSU Piston
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The year before the Pistons won the championship (2004), NJ swept them in the ECF. IDGAF how the Nets did in the Finals. They were good. I watched plenty of their games vs. Detroit.
Who cares? This was during a period of time when whoever made it out of the east was simply a sacrificial lamb for the west (minus Det in 04). EC champ likely wouldnt have even been top-5 in the west. Nets kept getting swept, cavs got swept, it was sad really. They were good, but they were never great. Stop with the revisionist history.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:17 pm to OldTigahFot
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People will forget about this story in a few weeks after he goes on every morning show.
This story is tailor made for the media because you get at least 2 highly read stories:
1) OMG a pro athelete is gay! Well, technically a former pro athelete since he's not currently on any team, is over the hill, and never was good enough to be a regular starter ever.
2) OMG an over the hill guy that was never that good got cut because he was gay! Or did he get cut because of talent. Let's debate!
This ignores the obvious other stories:
a) debating if he really is the first pro athelete to come out of the closet when you have that dude from the 49'rs, Mike Piazza, A-Rod etc;
b) ignorant jock that says something like "aint no room for no **** on this team".
It's a never ending media cycle because people just can't get over the fact that someone might be gay, and people, especially white people, can't get their heads around the idea that we might have the most equal society in history and the playing field for most purposes is pretty level. For every gay guy that gets harassed there's also a fat guy, a guy that can't hold his liqour, a guy on the chess club, whatever.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:17 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Yeah real good role model lol
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:17 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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They were good,
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The year before the Pistons won the championship (2004), NJ swept them in the ECF. IDGAF how the Nets did in the Finals. They were good. I watched plenty of their games vs. Detroit.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:21 pm to ironsides
John Amaechi came out years ago. There is no debate.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:23 pm to LSU Piston
How is he getting praised for admitting a sin and that he will continue?? Wonder if a player came out and says he cheats on his wife, snorts cocaine, steals, will anyone praise this?? Nothing against the guy I sin and I have lots of faults but wouldn't admit them in public and expect to get praised from it.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:26 pm to ironsides
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a) debating if he really is the first pro athelete to come out of the closet when you have that dude from the 49'rs, Mike Piazza, A-Rod etc;
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:34 pm to dwilk4
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Posted by dwilk4 How is he getting praised for admitting a sin and that he will continue?? Wonder if a player came out and says he cheats on his wife, snorts cocaine, steals, will anyone praise this?? Nothing against the guy I sin and I have lots of faults but wouldn't admit them in public and expect to get praised from it.
Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods... Womanizers, gamblers, gluttons, sinners (omg!!) while being the 3 most well known athletes to walk the planet. Ever.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:35 pm to TigerStripes06
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Don Amaechi came out years ago.
or
John Amaechi
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:36 pm to LSU Piston
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LSU Piston
You started with "really good," which is what caught my attention. That they werent.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:37 pm to OldTigahFot
Oops 
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:42 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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onmymedicalgrind
You can think what you want. I guarantee you I watched more of them than you did.
When the Pistons won the championship, the Nets in the ECF semis gave them their toughest test in the playoffs. Pistons beat them in 7 tough games, while having to go to NJ to win game 6 to survive. Pistons had a MUCH tougher time with them than the Lakers in the Finals (series lasted 5 games).
They were a good team. Jason Kidd in his prime. Richard Jefferson in his prime. Kenyon Martin. A tough defense. Don't be some internet hard-arse and dispute that they weren't a good team, or dare I say it, a 'really good' team. They made it to back to back Finals. They beat SAS twice in 2003. They never won it all. Big f'ing deal.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:45 pm to LSU Piston
I don't think tiger, babe Ruth, etc were being praised for the stuff they did morally wrong! Actually tiger was piled on! So why is it wrong to treat Collins the same?? Things that make u go hmmmm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:17 am to LSU Piston
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I guarantee you I watched more of them than you did.
Probably not.
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Pistons had a MUCH tougher time with them than the Lakers in the Finals (series lasted 5 games).
So? Lakers were a mess by that point and it was clear the end was drawing near on their run.
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They were a good team
I agreed with this.
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Don't be some internet hard-arse and dispute that they weren't a good team, or dare I say it, a 'really good' team. They made it to back to back Finals.
I understand you are a Pistons fan, but have you really forgotten how god awful the east was back then?? Making it to the finals out of the east usually meant you were around the 5th best team overall in the league. Like I said, good, but nothing that impressive.
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They never won it all
They were never close.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:28 am to onmymedicalgrind
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onmymedicalgrind
"They weren't great, they were good, but not really good, just back-to-back finals good, but don't you dare act like that means anything!!1!"
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:30 am to Cosmo
How do you not know who Collins is? Do you live in a box? Dude is a 12-year vet and was dominant at Stanford with his brother.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:30 am to jimithing11
you are needed in the other collins thread
people want more info about your friend
people want more info about your friend
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