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re: Did any of you know who Jason Collins was before today?
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:22 am to Sophandros
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:22 am to Sophandros
I remember him playing with Madsen at Stanford but haven't followed him since.
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:22 am to Cosmo
I didn't know who he was. Funny how he comes out at the end of his career! I wonder how comfortable guys were with him in the same locker room? ugghh
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:24 am to League Champs
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And if you don't want to accept Pauls words then get out of Christianity altogether, because it was Paul that battled Peter for the right of gentiles to even be a part of the new kingdom. He obviously knows his stuff
Are women allowed to speak in church?
According to Paul, no.
That's just one place where Paul's OPINION is no longer valid today.
And I've derived my opinion from years of research and reading prior to the invention of wikipedia.
Tell me, how much of the Gospel have YOU translated?
ETA: it's people like you who give Christianity a bad name. You tell others to "get out of Christianity" because they are able to recognize that, like the Levitical code, there are old traditions that don't apply today. All you fundamentalists are the same; the only difference between you and a Muslim fundamentalist is the name you assign to God.
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 10:29 am
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:29 am to Sophandros
quote:I'm not big on religion knowledge, but this is absolutely my biggest gripe with religion and those who use the Bible and throw that around.
It says that women are to remain silent in church. If people are to take the Bible literally, rather than taking context, etc. into account, then women would, in fact, be silent in churches.
But we understand why Paul wrote what he wrote when he wrote it and thus we know why those particular words are not relevant in today's churches. The same holds true for the condemnations found in Leviticus, which is where you will find references to shellfish, clothes of mixed cloth, shaving, and homosexuality.
It's the picking and choosing of which parts of the Bible they subscribe to, and which they don't and forget about.
That annoys me to no end. If you don't believe in something, so be it, but don't tell me it's because it says so in the bible unless you're going to believe in everything in the Bible.
Just like you said, it's about evolving.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:32 am to Big Sway
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Funny how he comes out at the end of his career!
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:03 am to Sophandros
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According to Paul, no.
That's just one place where Paul's OPINION is no longer valid today.
Lol
Your OPINION does not prove Paul wrong
The Bible clearly says the man is the head of the household, but if his wife is the one speaking in church then he has relinquished the most important of his roles to her
Paul is advocating a 2 parent family, with the stronger vessel being the head. Today's society his gone to shite, and you accept the new chaos as the norm
That's also why you accept ghey as a normal lifestyle
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:07 am to Cosmo
When Aaron Rodgers finally comes out it's gonna go down
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:20 am to League Champs
People like you once said that interracial marriages would lead to the downfall of society.
Before that your kind opposed women's suffrage.
You were wrong then and you're wrong now.
Society is actually BETTER than what it was at any other time in history. We are also more tolerant than ever.
Before that your kind opposed women's suffrage.
You were wrong then and you're wrong now.
Society is actually BETTER than what it was at any other time in history. We are also more tolerant than ever.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:31 am to League Champs
quote:So you adhere to everything said in the bible?
The Bible clearly says the man is the head of the household, but if his wife is the one speaking in church then he has relinquished the most important of his roles to her
Or do you pick and choose?
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:34 am to shel311
The Bible clearly states that we can't eat crawfish, cheeseburgers, or wear cotton/wool blend shirts. It also says that we should not shave or wear cologne.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:43 am to Sophandros
quote:Whoa, pillage the cities and rape the women and children all you want, but this crosses the line!!!
The Bible clearly states that we can't eat crawfish
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:45 pm to Sophandros
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The Bible clearly states that we can't eat crawfish, cheeseburgers,
You're either willfully ignorant or a damned liar. Either way no one should place any stock in your judgement of the Bible
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Romans 14:1-23
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls.
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1Co.10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:50 pm to League Champs
Read Leviticus.
It's in the Bible too, you know...
Also, are you implying that vegetarians are "weak"?
Or maybe, just maybe, when you put Paul's words IN CONTEXT, you come to another conclusion...
It's in the Bible too, you know...
Also, are you implying that vegetarians are "weak"?
Or maybe, just maybe, when you put Paul's words IN CONTEXT, you come to another conclusion...
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:55 pm to Cosmo
Never heard of him but I don't watch the NBA.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 1:05 pm to Sophandros
I'm not Jewish. Neither are you. Why do you care what their eating habits were?
I've already shown you in the NT that anything in the meat market is OK. Why make up BS like you have some kind of point?
Maybe you're not smart enough to understand Paul wrote to the gentiles because we had different customs? And if you're that ignorant, then your views on homosexuality have to be questioned too
I've already shown you in the NT that anything in the meat market is OK. Why make up BS like you have some kind of point?
Maybe you're not smart enough to understand Paul wrote to the gentiles because we had different customs? And if you're that ignorant, then your views on homosexuality have to be questioned too
Posted on 4/30/13 at 1:13 pm to League Champs
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Maybe you're not smart enough to understand Paul wrote to the gentiles because we had different customs?
So you do understand the concept of context. That's wonderful.
Now, apply it across everything you've read by Paul. For example, consider WHY and TO WHOM he made his condemnation of homosexuals. Also consider his other statements about human sexuality and marriage.
There is a lot more going on in the Pauline letters than what is on the surface, so merely taking the words at face value is, at best, intellectually unsound.
But one of the most troubling recent trends in Christianity is the transition to more of an emphasis on Paul's writings than on the messages in the Gospels.
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