re: DAT Spring Training Thread: YWCHA Edition

He went on to say the analytics don't look so good with these long deals going past age 33 seasons and he's right. I don't really know what to think about it without knowing what Tuck is asking for. Based on the deals this past offseason, it's probably at least 10 years. If he'd do 7 or 8 it might be different.

These long arse deals are clearly a way to manipulate the CBT and it'll be interesting to see if anything is done about that. If not, it might just be the cost of doing business and Crane won't have a choice if he wants to keep any top tier talent.

We've talked a lot about Tucker and Framber deals but we've not really touched on Bregs who's up at the end of next season. He'll be going into his age 30 season. Rendon got his stupid 7/245 deal going into his age 30 season. Breg will have a big market and a big number. He already signed a friendly, albeit back loaded deal paying him 30.5M, once before. I'm expecting he'll want to max his earnings on what's likely his last deal. At least every bit of 200 right?

The 2nd baseman for Venezuela picked up a single and got thrown out trying to tag up to 2nd. And Bielak gave up a HR to Sal Perez. Sometimes it do Bielak that

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Dana Brown: “I just don’t know that I have the comfort of going as long as, say, maybe I’ll have to to get Tucker done. I just don’t like big deals. If they’re open for something a little more than five, maybe I would be open to doing that." -

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Remember how bright eyed and ambitious Brown was about extending players when he first came on the scene? Something about telling Jim Crane buckle up, it's coming.

Now we're getting the quote above. A little more than 5 huh? Like 6 years? 6 being the longest contract Crane has handed out. Crane neutered this guy's gumption in a hurry.

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The 2nd baseman for Venezuela picked up a single and got thrown out trying to tag up to 2nd

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its truly remarkable how dumb of a baserunner he continues to be

He found out how cheap crane really is. The edict is the same...offer undermarket deals and hope. They accept. If not, let them walk...

Tucker is absolutely the mold and age that you offer a 10 year deal to and these idiots acting like Holy shite we can't go that far.

The game has changed dramatically and crane hasn't realized it. The days of stocking the farm like they did under lunhow are impossible now.

We all form attachments and want to keep our own, esp when we drafted and raised them, but to use a phrase by the poster earlier, you can't will their production in later years into existence

We don't have the luxury of signing Bregman's first deal and Yed and Javier's recent deals if we already had huge deals in place for others

This last WS win, along with the consecutive ALCS runs, has helped me to accept the necessities of keeping this team competitive.

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This last WS win, along with the consecutive ALCS runs, has helped me to accept the necessities of keeping this team competitive.

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Agreed. We always hear the super stars state, "This is a business." and everyone nods and says, "yep I don't blame him for taking the money and running."

I never hear anyone say, "Well, it's a business. I don't blame that owner for letting that superstar leave for that absurd contract."

frick it. Good, bad, or ugly -- Crane has managed to bring 2 WS championships. If he doesn't want to pay these stupid contracts, who am I to argue?

That said... he's rich. I'm not. It's his money. Not mine.

He better pay that man his money.

Tucker is absolutely worth the long commitment. He projects as the kind of player to maintain his production long into his 30s. Healthy, speed, great defense LH hitter with power. Prime still ahead of him.