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re: DAT Offseason Thread: Sorry Not Sorry. Still 2017 Champs.

Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:48 pm to
Am I the only one that’s moved on completely from this?

There will be no more repercussions other than no draft picks which they’re taking care of in Caribbean.


Let’s get this season rolling, hope for the best this year then ditch Dusty at the end of the year.

Time to play ball.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:51 pm to
People should, it is over... No other punishments will come from this. No championship lost and at the end of the day who really cares
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:53 pm to
I mean if the twitter account is credible enough to ask hinch about Altuve etc then it’s certainly time to ask gleybar don’t you agree? Especially given that Chris young admits that this all started and snowballed from the Yankees
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:58 pm to
The thing is MLB came out in 2017 telling teams it was over, Young was not on the Yankees at the time. The Astros made a choice to not listed. And continued their elaborate cheating scheme and got busted after the MLB warning.

That is the issue not that teams cheated previously but the fact MLB said no technology after 2017 and the Astros didn't listen.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:01 pm to
You didn’t answer the question. If it’s a legit question to hunch about buzzers then it’s time to ask gleyber no?
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:04 pm to
I have no idea why Gleyber plays a part in buzzers to be honest. I haven't seen an article talking about on any of the sites I've seen.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:06 pm to
Oh you mean the debunked theory that Torres had a buzzer (I found after googling)
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:06 pm to
Don’t play dumb. The twitter that tweeted about Altuve and the buzzers tweeted that gleyber used buzzers.

Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:07 pm to
The mlb debunked the Astros buzzers yet reporters keep asking about it. Has gleyber been asked?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:08 pm to
The same "Beltran's niece" account that invented Buzzergate also said that Gleyber wore a buzzer on his ankle. The media have accepted the Astros part as gospel, forgot the portion about Gleyber
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:14 pm to
I believe he has been asked from my Google search and he denied it
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:16 pm to
"Beltran niece" the same false account that had no backing? Now getting mad for the rumors of the Astros that posed no real legitimacy then you should disregard the Gleyber accusations
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:19 pm to
I disregarded the whole hoax the day it came out and was quickly debunked. I'm not the one on TV and twitter dinging Hinch and the Astros for not giving the "approved answer" about a completely unverified rumor from a discredited anonymous source.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:21 pm to
I'm pointing to the recent ESPN article that indicates Lunhow knew
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Now getting mad for the rumors of the Astros that posed no real legitimacy then you should disregard the Gleyber accusations




Meh. All of the sources of the spread of cheating started with the Yankees-Chris young Beltran etc. they’ve earned a few rumors
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:31 pm to
They did not
Chris Young bullshite just started and was prior to 2017
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:35 pm to


Do you read the articles?

Chris young said he started it with the Red Sox because he used it with the Yankees.

Carlos Beltran struggles after an all star season with .200+ higher ops in yankee stadium so he then implements the system from the Yankees.

I’m supposed to believe that Luke voit and gio urshella did this by chance?
The rest of the league is just playing catch-up
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:44 pm to
I've read plenty of articles, I also know MLB issued their warning in 2017 in which You g was not with the Yankees.

Now if you want to continue the conspiracy then that is you and you can believe what you want.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

I've read plenty of articles, I also know MLB issued their warning in 2017 in which You g was not with the Yankees.

Now if you want to continue the conspiracy then that is you and you can believe what you want.



So you don’t deny that Chris young learned his cheating ways from the Yankees.

You don’t deny that Carlos Beltran learned his cheating ways from the Yankees

Gio urshella sets a career high ops by nearly .300 points, dj lemahieu increases his ops by .150 points from coors field and career high ops+, Luke voit goes from .700 ops to 1.000, Cameron Maybin destroys his career high ops and ops+ Including destroying his time with those dastardly Astros

But you honestly think it stopped because of a memo from Manfred?
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:57 pm to
To argue what Good did is ridiculously inept because it doesn't prove anyrhing. Voit went from a player who didn't have a chance to having a chance ...
We could play this game for many MLB teams, same with Maybin. You want to indicate cheating instead of understanding the. Aspects involved the Astros had a more advanced system. The Yankees benefited it but your area of it benefitting is lacking since you have no data supporting
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