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re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!

Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:31 am to
Yeah, Dietrich is not Marwin as an overall defender but we don't need that with Tucker's emergence plus Kemp's versatility. We need a LF/corner infielder backup mostly. But we need a lineup full of hitters. This is the American League. Give me Ramos at catcher so we can put Reddick's arse in the 9-hole most days.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:34 am to
One potential FA utility type that might be available on a cheaper 2-3 year deal is former Astro Jed Lowrie. He's played all 4 IF positions over his career, but not OF.

Also super-UT Daniel Descalso, but he's not much of a bat.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:38 am to
I would love opening day 13 man position player roster to look something like (assuming Marwin is gone which I hope is wrong)

Catcher
Ramos
Stassi

IF
Yuli
Altuve
Correa
Bregman

OF
Springer
Reddick
Tucker
Jake

Utility types
Kemp
Marwin replacement (Dietrich or someone else)

That’s 12, then the question becomes whether we stick it out with White or go for a more established DH option. I think they will probably stick with White but I would love to get a more reliable bat at that spot
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:40 am to
It would be a hell of a coup to sign Jed back without having a starting job for him (unless we know Altuve and/or Correa are going to be out for awhile). I just think he'll get one guaranteed somewhere. You never know. He'll turn 35 but just had a near 5 WAR season.

Lowrie would probably demand a no-trade clause from us even for a one-year deal because ya know...
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:41 am to
Nelson Cruz would look good there. Veteran Beltran-esque role but a much better bat at this point in their careers.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:42 am to
I agree
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:44 am to
quote:

It would be a hell of a coup to sign Jed back without having a starting job for him (unless we know Altuve and/or Correa are going to be out for awhile). I just think he'll get one guaranteed somewhere. You never know. He'll turn 35 but just had a near 5 WAR season.


If Marwin isn't back, and the Astros don't sign a locked in DH like Nelson Cruz, there should be ABs to go around.

If Marwin is back, then it makes no sense. If a locked in DH type is on the roster, then a lot of ABs are no longer available elsewhere.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:44 am to
White was fine as DH this year but with a championship contender, I'd like to do better than fine. I've seen contract predictions for Cruz in the 2 year 30-35 million range. I'd do that. Though the Mariners are all but guaranteed to offer him a QO so we'd lose a draft pick to them.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:46 am to
Rotation wise I think a lot hinges on when they feel Whitley will be coming up. There is so much depth you could really lose both Morton and Keuchel and not have to add anything. I think they will resign Morton, then patch the last two spots (assuming Lance is out) with James Peacock McHugh Framber and Whitley takes one spot quickly.

Corbin Martin also could be up next year
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 10:50 am
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:51 am to
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He is likely to miss the 2019 season.


Damn
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:54 am to
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If the news about McCullers is true I think they look for outside help for the rotation along with trying to bring Morton back


Do we think Luhnow simply leans in the direction of using openers in lieu of adding a MOR arm? He loves the idea of it in theory but said he wouldn't do anything in the short term (ie this past year) given the rotation we had.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:56 am to
Yeah that was kind of what I was thinking when I posted the thing about the rotation a few posts up.

I would love for James to be in a multi inning relief role. I think he could be elite doing that.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:59 am to
I think we could very easily see an early season rotation of JV, Cole, Morton and any two of James/Frambaw/McHugh/Peacock. With Whitley, C. Perez, Bukake and C. Martin all on pace for 2018 debuts, there's no need for FA pitching unless Ludlow sees a bargain/reclamation project out there.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Lowrie would probably demand a no-trade clause from us even for a one-year deal because ya know...


We should sign him and then trade him mid season back to the A's.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:02 am to
Yeah looking at it more I think the only way they do go for a FA starter is if Morton leaves, and I think it’s much more likely they just resign him

With Framber and Perez I don’t think we really need to add a LH reliever either
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:05 am to
Morton is staying. He'll get a QO, and no one will risk giving up a pick. His injury history means he won't get a bigger deal than what Ludlow will give him.

Recency bias helps us, too. People will remember Morton's end of the season.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:18 am to
So, QO for Marwin, new 2-year deal for Morton, trade for Realmuto, done.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:20 am to
Realmuto will Not happen.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:21 am to
Yeah, I just don't see Ludlow getting a sweetheart deal for the baseball's best catcher.

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Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:22 am to
Jeter is going to make it happen so the Astros can take down the Red Sox next year. He's still a Yankee deep down and hates Boston.
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