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re: DAT 8/4 Blue Jays (Valdez) @ Astros (GOATcock) 7:10 ct

Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:20 pm to
I really wish the rotation was healthy right now so we could throw Peacock into some high leverage situations and see how he responds. I'm still bullish on Peacock as a really good reliever
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:42 pm to
I agree, but I don't think Peacock's control issues at times fit with high-leverage fireman opportunities. We were hoping Devo and Harris were the pair to do it, but one is struggling and the other is hurt.

What Hinch needs to figure out is who he can trust to come into tight games with runners on base. Assuming Harris comes back healthy, he is the best option if/until Devo gets his act together.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:53 pm to
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but I don't think Peacock's control issues at times fit with high-leverage fireman opportunities.


Agreed. 5 walks per 9 with an insanely low home run rate. He's given up 2 home runs all year in 75 innings. That'll probably regress to a more normal level. I just hope it's not after he's walked a bunch or guys.
Posted by Rjlebla
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:07 pm to
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What Hinch needs to figure out is who he can trust to come into tight games with runners on base.


Bingo! To me, this is the most concerning aspect of the team followed closely by quality starting pitching. We have not been as adept at getting to relievers as consistently as we were so protecting the leads we do have are paramount now.

The first pitcher, whether starter or reliever gets us off to a bad start in an inning and the guy hinch goes to can never get out of it cleanly it seems.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:12 pm to
For those keeping hope alive, Verlander has officially cleared waivers.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
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For those keeping hope alive, Verlander has officially cleared waivers.

But we needed to claim him to not risk it!
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:20 pm to
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For those keeping hope alive, Verlander has officially cleared waivers.


The talks had better already be taking place.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
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The talks had better already be taking place.


That right, Ludlow!

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:29 pm to
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claim him to not risk it!



Jim crane appreciates your concern for his pocket book. Likely though we are late on negotiations at this point
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9546 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:34 pm to
No reason to get stuck with his contract, he was never going to get claimed. If Detroit were to trade him and eat cash that's extra $ we can use on free agent relievers this offseason. Paying the prospect price is my preferred route. Unfortunately it may not be Luhnow's right now.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:35 pm to
People are going to poop their pants when Keuchel is traded this offseason.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:37 pm to
It would make Luhnow look even worse if he were to give up prospects for verlander now. It would just solidify how bad they screwed up before the deadline.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:42 pm to
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It would make Luhnow look even worse if he were to give up prospects for verlander now.


I don't think so.

Now, if he gives up Tucker and Whitley, then it looks really bad, but if he gives up one bottom half of top 10 guy and then some middling prospects, that's a good move.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:52 pm to
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Now, if he gives up Tucker and Whitley, then it looks really bad, but if he gives up one bottom half of top 10 guy and then some middling prospects, that's a good move.



All depends on how much of his contract they eat.

Regardless Detroit knows we are desperate. we will have to overpay
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:53 pm to
If the twitter guy was right before the deadline, Detroit would have to eat A LOT of his contract to get any value in return. Good for us if true.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:57 pm to
I'd guess DET would have to eat about half of the salary.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103568 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:02 pm to
This is also assuming that Verlander would even allow a trade to go through. He's a 5/10 guy so has veto power on all trades.
Posted by Athletix
Member since Dec 2012
5142 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:14 pm to
Making my first game of the year tonight. My W/L is pretty impressive attending Astros games, something like 11-1. I'll be in attendance this weekend and next in Arlington to help right this ship.

Side note. Ticket prices have jumped big time over the past 2 years. Obviously the Astros are having a great year, so more people are showing up. But the exact same tickets I got 2 years ago at this time of the year were $40-50 cheaper. I'd like to know how lucrative of a year this has been for Crane.

Also for the regulars. Do you find you can pick up tickets at the park for significantly cheaper than the ticket sites? And can you do so reliably? Tough for me to chance this route coming from BR.
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