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Posted on 2/19/21 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 5:40 pm to
Just got the chance to read the article. We're 5 years in on Whitley's pro career, he's 23 and still talking about eliminating pitches from his arsenal and tinkering with speeds etc. All the shite he should have been locking in the last several years he wasted.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:25 pm to
I think that’s the issue, is he says he’s stubborn and does stuff for himself, but he’s gain & lost weight and tinkered with adding/subtracting pitches, clearly someone is in his ear about doing some of these things.

I haven’t given up hope yet, if he figures it out he’s a #2-4 pretty easily
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:27 pm to
Anyone see the beef between Syndergaurd and Bauer on Twitter?

Saw a bunch of replies to Bauer basically saying “dude, you’re not cut out for twitter, need to lighten up.”

Thor actually said:
quote:

You bring a drone and your mixtape and it’s a deal. #takeajokebro twitter.com/baueroutage/st…


Bauer deleted his tweets, so I don’t know what he said.

For Thor to throw out the drone joke... I’m kind of a fan now.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 12:18 am to
Bauer is a POS self-centered bitch and Syndergaard isn't. It's that simple.
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:35 am to
Urquidy says he dropped 15 pounds in the off season... is targeting 200 innings this year.

If they get 200 innings out of him, that will translate to a lot of wins for the team.

Spring Training is upon us boys and girls -- should we rename this thread, or start a new?

At any rate -- this is the time of year to rejoice.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:40 am to
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Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:47 am to
With MLB bringing in some dead balls back to the game. I expect players like Yuli and Bregman to have difficulty transitioning. Altuve and Correa should be fine because they actually hit to all fields.

I expect Greinke and Urquidy to dominate with the new balls.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:49 am to
quote:


He basically said nobody has a combination of “control-plus” and “stuff-plus” that Urquidy has. When talking about his pitch repertoire, he stated that if you could build a pitcher in a lab, Urquidy is what you would come out with.





Is there any question that Jeff luhnow was tGOAT?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:52 am to
quote:

expect players like Yuli and Bregman to have difficulty transitioning.


So Bregman is fat AND he is going to become a woman?
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:00 am to
quote:

So Bregman is fat AND he is going to become a woman?


Man, this is an Astros baseball thread. We're not here to talk about Fiers.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:04 am to
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Man, this is an Astros baseball thread. We're not here to talk about Fiers.



Point taken.

I just want to see Yuri transition away from whatever he became in October last year. If that involves him losing a penis, then so be it. It is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:07 am to
I really think Yuli benefitted greatly to the juiced balls. I think MLB began changing them right before post-season began last season.

Yuli went from legit HR power, the the "Warning Track Power" that he was projected by many *experts* to have when he was first signed.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I really think Yuli benefitted greatly to the juiced balls. I think MLB began changing them right before post-season began last season.

Yuli went from legit HR power, the the "Warning Track Power" that he was projected by many *experts* to have when he was first signed.




I agree with all this, but that doesn't explain all the ground balls to short he hit in the playoffs
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I expect Greinke and Urquidy to dominate with the new balls.


You know who would have benefited? That guy who won the Cy Young a couple years ago with a 2.58 ERA while allowing 36 home runs in 34 starts.

Imagine how dominant he would have been without all those home runs.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I agree with all this, but that doesn't explain all the ground balls to short he hit in the playoffs


He was trying to pull every pitch he saw because he wasn't getting the carry he was used to having... pitchers were giving him nothing pullable. End result, GB 6-3.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:32 am to
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Imagine how dominant he would have been without all those home runs.



Baseball-reference is projecting him to have 90IP this season. That would be nice.

The photo of him throwing his daughter in the pool... got to make Mark Pieper squirt a little brown-matter in his versace tighty-whiteys.
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:41 am to
That's who Yuli always has been though. An extremely aggressive hitter who wants to ambush early fastballs and drive into the LCF gap.

I think, for whatever reason, he was tired in the playoffs and was pressing because he had been shite for all of September too. His barrel and hard hit %'s all line up with the previous years so there wasn't much drop there, he did strike out a percentage point more than usual. He feels like a clutch player so it was extremely disappointing to see him turning into Josh Reddick with RISP He also had a .235 BABIP which feels pretty unlucky.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101956 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:16 am to
I'm curious how much the hand/wrist injury tanked his season and turned him into a ground ball machine with no power.

Up until the injury:

45 games .265/.310/.458 12 doubles 1 triple 6HR 21RBI 11 walks 22 strikeouts 4 double plays

After the injury (including playoffs)

25 games 10/89 0 extra base hits 2RBI 7 walks 8 strikeouts 6 double plays


I mean that's drastic. After the injury, he doesn't have an extra base hit the rest of the season.

Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:17 am to
Sorry in advance if this is all already known, but some of it was new info to me. Kinda understand a little better why the CBT is such a big deal. Seems to be less about the money and more about what you lose in draft assets and bonus pool money. Rosenthal article...

quote:

Why the Astros won’t sign Bradley Jr.


The financial penalty for exceeding the luxury-tax threshold is not what is deterring the Astros from signing free-agent center fielder Jackie Bradley Jr. The team is more concerned with the diminished draft-pick compensation it would receive if it went past $210 million and then made qualifying offers to Correa and possibly right-handers Justin Verlander and Zack Greinke at the end of the season.

The Astros’ current luxury-tax payroll, according to Fangraphs, is $201.3 million, leaving them room for potential additions at the deadline. Bradley is unlikely to accept a salary that would keep them under the threshold. And if they go over, any compensation pick would fall from after the second round to after the fourth round. In 2019, the dropoff would have been from No. 78 to No. 138.

Going over also would cost the Astros young talent if they signed a free agent with a qualifying offer – say, Corey Seager to replace Correa. The penalty then would be their second- and fifth-highest picks and a $1 million reduction in their international bonus pool, as opposed to only a second-rounder and $500,000 reduction if they stayed under. And remember, every pick is critical for a team that lost its first- and second-round selections in 2020 and ’21 as part of its penalty for the sign-stealing scandal.

Correa seems certain to merit the one-year qualifying offer, which likely will be in the $18 million to $19 million range. Verlander, who is expected to miss the entire season after undergoing Tommy John surgery, would be an interesting call entering his age 39 season, as would Greinke entering his age 38. Righty Lance McCullers, 27, would be unlikely to receive a QO unless he has a big season.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:35 am to
I think Greinke receiving a QO relies much more on his performance this season that LMJ.

I think the only place LMJ will want to leave Houston for would be MIA or TB. And neither of those teams are in a position to pay him what he's worth. I think he'll sign an extension with Astros.
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