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Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:26 am to TH03
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He’s making a call based on what he saw without the benefit of replay or asking betts where he was, etc. He’s got to make a snap call right there on what he just saw. He saw a guy tracking the ball about to make a catch then get prevented from making the catch from a fan. He made a call.
Which is why it’s ridiculous with all of the technology in the stadium they basically just deferred to his call
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:27 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Which is why it’s ridiculous with all of the technology in the stadium they basically just deferred to his call
What shot definitively shows what the call should’ve been though?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:28 am to TH03
There is nothing that shows anything definitively either way. I think you can infer based on the info they have about the dimensions Betts reached over the fence. But instead they defer to a call he made on the field that he hesitated on when he made it and you just admitted he probably couldn’t see shite from.
You can tell a whole lot more from the camera angles than you can from where he made the call.
You can tell a whole lot more from the camera angles than you can from where he made the call.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:32 am to TH03
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What shot definitively shows what the call should’ve been though?
Still shots that I've seen this morning paint a much different picture than the replays that I saw on television last night. Everything that I saw clearly showed Betts's glove to be beyond the yellow line and in the crowd.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:33 am to TH03
I have two beefs with that call last night. To my knowledge, which may be wrong, but that ball was a foot over the yellow line which is "Out of play" which means it's fair game for everyone.
Second, they are assuming he makes the catch. Maybe he does maybe he doesn't but idk how you can 100% confirm he catches that.
I'm over it. Idc
Second, they are assuming he makes the catch. Maybe he does maybe he doesn't but idk how you can 100% confirm he catches that.
I'm over it. Idc
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:33 am to FauxPeepFinder
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Can y’all not just be happy that y’all had a good run?! I love when someone’s team loses they immediately make excuses.
Aren’t you rooting for Boston? You know how rich that is
Let us be miserable for a second, take your concern trolling somewhere else
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:34 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I think you can infer based on the info they have about the dimensions Betts reached over the fence.
I don’t think you can do that within the rules, but I could be mistaken.
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But instead they defer to a call he made on the field that he hesitated on when he made it and you just admitted he probably couldn’t see shite from.
Because with the lack of evidence, you have to stick with the call, as hesitantly made as it may be. He was 100% going to catch that without the fan.
It’s unfortunate, but that didn’t end the inning either.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:34 am to Pnels08
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Second, they are assuming he makes the catch. Maybe he does maybe he doesn't but idk how you can 100% confirm he catches that.
He tracked it and timed his jump perfectly. He was catching that ball.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:35 am to High C
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Still shots that I've seen this morning paint a much different picture than the replays that I saw on television last night. Everything that I saw clearly showed Betts's glove to be beyond the yellow line and in the crowd.
In other words nothing that they had available to make a call during the game.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:35 am to Pnels08
The only one that reached over the yellow line was Betts, so how is that interference again??? You also can't assume a catch, so he should have gotten a single/double at the very worst.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:36 am to TH03
I'll jump on the Joe West bashing. Which one is Joe West?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:37 am to TthomasJR
frick joe west! And frick the Boston fans in here trolling.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:38 am to TH03
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I don’t think you can do that within the rules, but I could be mistaken
I don’t know if you can, you probably can’t, but you should be able to. He can’t see shite from where he’s making the call on the field. If you’re going to stop play for that long, then use everything you have and figure it out to the best of your ability. Don’t use his call on the field as the tie breaker
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He was 100% going to catch that without the fan.
I think he probably would have but assuming that is dumb. It’s also pretty irrelevant if he reached in the crowd.
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It’s unfortunate, but that didn’t end the inning either.
The Astros beat themselves without a doubt and it’s far from the only thing that pissed me off about that game. They had tons of chances to win it
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:38 am to gjackx
Only reason he was able to jump that high is because he wears Jordan baseball cleats. The J's came in handy last night 
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:39 am to gjackx
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You also can't assume a catch, so he should have gotten a single/double at the very worst.
At least know the rules if you’re going to complain. The ump can award bases or rule outs according to how, in his judgment, the play would have occurred without the interference.
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Per MLB Rule 3.16, “When there is spectator interference with any thrown or batted ball, the ball shall be dead at the moment of interference and the umpire shall impose such penalties as in his opinion will nullify the act of interference.”
Literally the only thing you can argue here was whether or not it was out of play.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:41 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:41 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I think he probably would have but assuming that is dumb.
But that’s the job of the ump in that situation. He supposed to judge whether or not he was going to catch it without the interference.
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It’s also pretty irrelevant if he reached in the crowd.
Agreed. The issue is whether he was in the crowd or not. Not if he was going to catch it or not. There was no clear picture last night that MLB couldve used.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:42 am to TH03
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Literally the only thing you can argue here was whether or not it was out of play or not.
Not really. If they’re saying the fan reached in the field, which they are, then whether or not he makes the catch becomes important. I think he would have made it, at least above 50%, so I’m fine with that part of the call. But I also think that ball was for sure out of the stadium
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:44 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Can y’all argue this in the other thread please? This is going to derail this for awhile if not. 
Joe West is fat as frick and sucks at his job, tho
Joe West is fat as frick and sucks at his job, tho
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:45 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Not really. If they’re saying the fan reached in the field, which they are, then whether or not he makes the catch becomes important.
Correct. I’m saying that part is pretty clear he was going to catch it and joe west thought so as well.
If one believes he was going to catch it regardless of being in or out of play, the only issue here is that yellow line.
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