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re: DAT 10/17 | ALCS Game 4 | Astros (Morton) vs. Red Sox (Porcello) | 7:39 CT | TBS
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:43 am to A Menace to Sobriety
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:43 am to A Menace to Sobriety
Cora getting thrown out in 1st inning really inspired the Sox in game 1 
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:44 am to A Menace to Sobriety
Hinch is trying avoid making it all about one play, and he realizes that unloading his frustration on the press would not help the situation.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:44 am to Hugh McElroy
I wouldn’t have disagreed with the double call. To say definitely he wasn’t going too make that catch maybe too much though. Looked like it hit exactly where his open glove would have been.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:45 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:44 am to 5 Deep
But look what it did for games 2-4!!!!!
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:45 am to Rjlebla
Yeah I’d be curious to see what he says if he gets asked about protesting it
Using him as a scapegoat for our pitchers continually shitting the bed and all the past balls is just lazy though IMO. I understand I’m prob in the minority in here on that
Using him as a scapegoat for our pitchers continually shitting the bed and all the past balls is just lazy though IMO. I understand I’m prob in the minority in here on that
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:46 am to Patton
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I wouldn’t have disagreed with the double call. To say he wasn’t going too make that catch maybe too much though. Looked like it hit exactly where his open glove would have been.
You don't have to judge that he wouldn't have made the catch to not call it an out. You have to judge that he plainly would have made the catch in order to call it an out. And there is no way in hell anyone can make the case that he plainly would have made that catch. The whole notion is absurd.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:46 am to Patton
It doesn’t matter that he would have caught it. Fact is he was in the stands and not in field of play. The ball was clearly 3 feet over yellow line. Doesn’t matter though, Astros pitching lost that one.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:47 am to CQQ
quote:Sox in 5
Price tomorrow
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:47 am to Hugh McElroy
Good point. Catch was not an absolute certainty. Double probably should have been the call.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:48 am to PearlJam
Verlander out of the pen for 3 inning save in game 7 
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:48 am to Patton
Astros bullpen era this series: 6.93
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:49 am to Enfuego
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The ball was clearly 3 feet over yellow line
3 feet seems like way too much. If he was in the stands it would have been by inches. The angle we all saw it at skews the perception.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:49 am to dhav14
I think the players committee or whatever should be responsible for reviews.. or an odd number of people voting..
Not just based off of one guy's perspective..
I had no idea that call was so botched. Someone in this thread they couldn't tell if the fan was leaning over or not, tough.. the ball came to him.. he didn't do anything outlandish.. He was slumped over for the ball.. the outfielder couldn't quite make the play.. That needs to be a home run.. And it should never just be an automatic out.
Should be a re-pitch then. But that's a separate baseball rule.
Not just based off of one guy's perspective..
I had no idea that call was so botched. Someone in this thread they couldn't tell if the fan was leaning over or not, tough.. the ball came to him.. he didn't do anything outlandish.. He was slumped over for the ball.. the outfielder couldn't quite make the play.. That needs to be a home run.. And it should never just be an automatic out.
Should be a re-pitch then. But that's a separate baseball rule. Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:49 am to Enfuego
quote:From the side angle frame by frame it appears initial contact was in the field of play, but it isn't conclusive one way or the other. I get Astros fans being upset about the call, but pretending it is clearly in the stands is delusional.
he was in the stands and not in field of play
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:49 am to A Menace to Sobriety
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Hinch really is a fricking wimp. Dude has no fire.
+1
I'm okay with the "steady heartbeat", but sometimes he needs to explode and lay into the ump. Show some pride damnit.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:50 am to PearlJam
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From the side angle frame by frame it appears initial contact was in the field of play, but it isn't conclusive one way or the other. I get Astros fans being upset about the call, but pretending it is clearly in the stands is delusional.
Either way, there is no way to justify calling it an out. Even if you're right, it's a double.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:51 am to 5 Deep
The thing is deep, there are a ton of people saying it was a bad call. Media. Former players, analysts, Too many people to just let it go without a bigger fight.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:51 am to 5 Deep
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I understand I’m prob in the minority in here on that
No I’m with you. Game was winnable. Pitching shite the bed. We’ve lost two games where we scored 5 and 6 runs respectively.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:51 am to Hugh McElroy
quote:It looked like Betts had a great bead on it, but if the rule reads the way you say, I'm not sure I would argue.
Either way, there is no way to justify calling it an out. Even if you're right, it's a double.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:53 am to PearlJam
It does:
Even IF it was interference, which most don't think it was, there is simply no way in hell to justify the claim that the fan plainly prevented the catch.
quote:
According to MLB Rule 3.16, "When there is spectator interference with any thrown or batted ball, the ball shall be dead at the moment of interference and the umpire shall impose such penalties as in his opinion will nullify the act of interference."
The rule further states that "no interference shall be allowed when a fielder reaches over a fence, railing, rope or into a stand to catch a ball. He does so at his own risk. However, should a spectator reach out on the playing field side of such fence, railing or rope, and plainly prevent the fielder from catching the ball, then the batsman should be called out for the spectator's interference."
Even IF it was interference, which most don't think it was, there is simply no way in hell to justify the claim that the fan plainly prevented the catch.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:55 am
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