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re: Dark Side Of the Ring: The The Plane Ride From Hell
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:14 pm to TigerFanatic99
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:14 pm to TigerFanatic99
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This is a war, and at some point everyone will have to pick sides. As for me, I stand with Carolina.
Good decision. People who prefer AEW over WWE are like people who say they prefer Triple A baseball over The Show. Triple A is filled with guys who will never be good enough to make it to The Show, guys who were there and proved they didn’t have the staying power, or guys who had it for awhile but they are way past their prime and just want to collect a paycheck.
That’s by far my favorite insult from the Indy boys. “How dare you like the most popular and best sports entertainment company on earth?” “Real wrestling is done exclusively by tiny white guys with the occasional Asian or Mexican sprinkled in!”. “Yes I have showered this month, why do you ask?”
Silly group of sad little men.
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Posted on 9/18/21 at 3:04 pm to TigerFanatic99
quote:The sad thing is that some people genuinely believe this. It's similar to arguing that if you like Coke, you should hope that Pepsi goes out of business. I like good wrestling wherever it can be found, and good wrestling can look like a lot of different things.
This is a war, and at some point everyone will have to pick sides
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 9/18/21 at 3:11 pm to TigerFanatic99
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This is a war, and at some point everyone will have to pick sides. As for me, I stand with Carolina.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 3:22 pm to Chuck Barris
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The sad thing is that some people genuinely believe this. It's similar to arguing that if you like Coke, you should hope that Pepsi goes out of business. I like good wrestling wherever it can be found, and good wrestling can look like a lot of different things.
I'm not even referring to AEW vs WWE. I'm talking about this constant feud between Carolina and Thanos.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 3:25 pm to TheeRealCarolina
I'd rather watch an elderly Ricky Morton and Tommy Rich fight in a steel cage at the Piedmont Fair in Spartanburg than anything WWE has done the last two decades.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 3:53 pm to SCLibertarian
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I'd rather watch an elderly Ricky Morton and Tommy Rich fight in a steel cage at the Piedmont Fair in Spartanburg than anything WWE has done the last two decades.
Bad take, but at least they aren’t vanilla flippy midgets.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 4:04 pm to SCLibertarian
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I'd rather watch an elderly Ricky Morton and Tommy Rich fight in a steel cage at the Piedmont Fair in Spartanburg
Posted on 9/18/21 at 4:41 pm to devils1854
I just want to see Dan “The Beast” Severn come back, claim he never lost the NWA title, and have a program with Trevor Murdoch.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 5:43 pm to Chuck Barris
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The sad thing is that some people genuinely believe this. It's similar to arguing that if you like Coke, you should hope that Pepsi goes out of business. I like good wrestling wherever it can be found, and good wrestling can look like a lot of different things.
Bingo, but Fed fans are incredibly insecure.
There are wrestlers I follow in The Fed, but as a whole their product isn’t for me.
But Styles, Prince Devatt, Eli Drake, Randy Orton, Nak, Dolph, Johnny Morrison, Ricochet. I will watch their matches when they have the chance to have a good match. I’ll watch Steiner Jr, because I was big fan of the Steiner Bros .
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I just want to see Dan “The Beast” Severn come back, claim he never lost the NWA title, and have a program with Trevor Murdoch.
Only man to hold NWA and UFC belts at the same time.
Stephan Bonnor recently wrestled for the NWA title, would love to see Dan paired with him.
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 9/18/21 at 5:47 pm to TigerFanatic99
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I'm not even referring to AEW vs WWE. I'm talking about this constant feud between Carolina and Thanos.
Feud? No, I find his gimmick amusing, he’s very dedicated to TD. If he didn’t live for the attention(and I do mean literal sense of the word), it wouldn’t be so much fun. I’m actually probably his best friend.
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ecause he knows fat man Jericho will come back out begging for a bigger payday when AEW washes out. And you’ll still be here crying Fed Bad and using everyone’s ROH/TNA name like it makes you one of the cool kids, when no one really cares about you using Wikipedia.
Eli Drake really upsets you this much? Lol
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:57 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
Flair’s money woes are legendary.
He has been stung by the IRS multiple times because he doesn’t to record keeping for shite and Vince had to give him a massive loan at least once to pay off his IRS debt.
He has been stung by the IRS multiple times because he doesn’t to record keeping for shite and Vince had to give him a massive loan at least once to pay off his IRS debt.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 11:10 am to teke184
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Flair’s money woes are legendary.
He has been stung by the IRS multiple times because he doesn’t to record keeping for shite and Vince had to give him a massive loan at least once to pay off his IRS debt.
Yeah but until ThanusisaDubocrat pays Dave Meltzer $12.99 a month, this isn’t confirmed.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:56 pm to teke184
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Flair’s money woes are legendary.
He has been stung by the IRS multiple times because he doesn’t to record keeping for shite and Vince had to give him a massive loan at least once to pay off his IRS debt.
Point being, like all rich guys, bankrupt and broke are two different things. Flair isn’t living hand to mouth.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:58 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
In debt to his eyeballs to the IRS multiple times and being cleaned out by multiple ex wives, combined with spending money the second he gets it, make for a shitty financial situation.
Flair lives the lifestyle he portrayed on TV and his finances are a perpetual disaster as a result.
Flair lives the lifestyle he portrayed on TV and his finances are a perpetual disaster as a result.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 1:21 pm to teke184
What's going on in here? Link is busted. Should I watch this and is this a series or this plane ride is one episode?
Posted on 9/19/21 at 1:28 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Good decision. People who prefer AEW over WWE are like people who say they prefer Triple A baseball over The Show. Triple A is filled with guys who will never be good enough to make it to The Show, guys who were there and proved they didn’t have the staying power, or guys who had it for awhile but they are way past their prime and just want to collect a paycheck.
That’s by far my favorite insult from the Indy boys. “How dare you like the most popular and best sports entertainment company on earth?” “Real wrestling is done exclusively by tiny white guys with the occasional Asian or Mexican sprinkled in!”. “Yes I have showered this month, why do you ask?”
This is a horrible take. Lets totally ignore WWE's declining television ratings and attendance figures year over year. The only thing keeping them afloat is brand recognition, TV deals, and Saudi blood money.
Just look at how much of WWE's audience is comprised of people over the age of 50
I would even argue that WWE isn't even a wrestling company any longer. Really, they haven't been a wrestling company since the early 80s, but it's more true today than ever. They bring in and push talent just by virtue of the fact that they are big strong muscle men despite their being green as grass in the ring and having no personality whatsoever at the expense of actual wrestling talent.
They train all their talent in the exact same way to wrestle the same generic WWE style. All the wrestlers sound exactly the same because they're all reading the same scripts written by the same people.
They fill their company with business executives and writers who have no clue about the wrestling business and wear it almost like a badge of honor. Many of their writers probably couldn't even name half the wrestlers on the roster.
Purely as an entertainment product, WWE is more popular than AEW same as the NFL blows away both properties, but AEW is a wrestling product. Maybe as a result AEW will never overtake WWE in total viewership, but if I am a wrestling fan, I am watching AEW. If I am a wrestler, working for AEW seems a hell of a lot more fun than working for WWE.
As an AEW talent, I'm free to get myself over. I don't have my promos written for me that I have to read off a script. I can also go wrestle anywhere I want. Want to go to Japan? Sure. Mexico? Sure. Impact Wrestling? Sure. Can't do that in WWE.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:28 pm to Joe D Grinder
It’s a series but the plane ride is just one episode.
And it is worth watching simply because it covers one of the bigger train wrecks of the past 20+ years of the WWE as far as talent misbehaving. It was infamous at the time and has gained legs since then.
And it is worth watching simply because it covers one of the bigger train wrecks of the past 20+ years of the WWE as far as talent misbehaving. It was infamous at the time and has gained legs since then.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:45 pm to BulldogXero
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WWE's declining television ratings and attendance figures year over year
Netwoks don't even use Nielsen ratings anymore so why do you? And they literally just had the highest grossing show in Smackdown's 20 year history lol. Summerslam packed in well over 50k with another event going on across the street. lol okay kid.
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he only thing keeping them afloat is brand recognition, TV deals, and Saudi blood money.
Oh yeah thats a huge burn for a company that gets $700 million a year just in US tv/streaming deals. What next? The NFL will shut down if they change the team names and they lose the tv contracts? This is just sad lol.
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Just look at how much of WWE's audience is comprised of people over the age of 50
Oh you mean how they have children all over the place at their live events? Families go to WWE events. Neckbeards go to AESJW events. It's even more glaring when you look at international audiences.
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I would even argue that WWE isn't even a wrestling company any longer. Really, they haven't been a wrestling company since the early 80s, but it's more true today than ever. They bring in and push talent just by virtue of the fact that they are big strong muscle men despite their being green as grass in the ring and having no personality whatsoever at the expense of actual wrestling talent.
They train all their talent in the exact same way to wrestle the same generic WWE style. All the wrestlers sound exactly the same because they're all reading the same scripts written by the same people.
They fill their company with business executives and writers who have no clue about the wrestling business and wear it almost like a badge of honor. Many of their writers probably couldn't even name half the wrestlers on the roster.
Purely as an entertainment product, WWE is more popular than AEW same as the NFL blows away both properties, but AEW is a wrestling product. Maybe as a result AEW will never overtake WWE in total viewership, but if I am a wrestling fan, I am watching AEW. If I am a wrestler, working for AEW seems a hell of a lot more fun than working for WWE.
As an AEW talent, I'm free to get myself over. I don't have my promos written for me that I have to read off a script. I can also go wrestle anywhere I want. Want to go to Japan? Sure. Mexico? Sure. Impact Wrestling? Sure. Can't do that in WWE.
I'm not reading the rest of this hot garbage but WWE has said for two decades they are a sports entertainment company because that's what the business as always been. "Pro" wrestling isn't done by guys doing 20 superkicks and 10 Canadian destroyers in a match. It's not done by very vanilla vanilla midgets who all look and wrestle the EXACT SAME STYLE.
BTW, if AESJW is so great and such a competitor then why do they have to keep signing ex-WWE guys to get cheap pub? Even with doing that, their "A" show STILL doesn't compete despite having no competition on it's night and it's B show has lost over half of its debut audience in less than 2 months.
They continually talk about selling out events, yet they still have hundreds, if not thousands of tickets available the day of events, and then there are twice that many available on the resale market.
It's a joke company run by joke people for a joke audience that simps for a joke product.
They will never be a viable competitor for WWE. Then. Now. Forever.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:51 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:well we are on a site where a LOT of people prefer college football to pro
People who prefer AEW over WWE are like people who say they prefer Triple A baseball over The Show. Triple A is filled with guys who will never be good enough to make it to The Show,
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:54 pm to Rou Leed
quote:it came from another time and place… Flair shouldn’t care if he’s canceled by the “journalists” of 2021, he’s old, and had his rides on Space Mountain.
. Flair is a legend and needs to distance himself from the p hound party gimmick instead of doubling down on it constantly. There is no way it can be tolerated now when other wrestlers have been cancelled for similar transgressions.
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