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re: Curt Cignetti: “College football won’t exist the way we’re going right now…”

Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:35 pm to
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I don’t care at all what any coach’s opinion is including Cignetti


That is totally your right, BUT it the fact that coaches who are personally benefiting from the situation are pointing out that it is problematic contradicts your claim that only big name programs who benefitted under the old system are concerned.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28330 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 7:36 pm to
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BUT it the fact that coaches who are personally benefiting from the situation are pointing out that it is problematic contradicts your claim that only big name programs who benefitted under the old system are concerned


Exactly

And he might be a little upset cause his #2;Jackets couldn't even make it out of the regionals with home field advantage.

Get lost nerd!

This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 7:38 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31912 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:16 pm to
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College football is better than ever. Look at the ratings.


Players playing for a paycheck more than for the university isn't a winning formula.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
977 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:53 pm to
History will simply prove you guys wrong. No matter how much whining you do and no matter over 50 years of age fAnd threaten to “leave the sport” the sport will continue strong because you are being replaced with fans who love the playoff system and have no problem with the big money. Just because a bunch of old grumpy coaches are whining in the press while also taking calls from agents and stealing players from each other and you guys buy it is just funny.

If DeBoer came out tomorrow and said he was standing in principle and wouldn’t take portal guys and wouldn’t pay anyone over 100K so Bama could field a competitive volleyball team he would be run out of town within a week. It’s not changing because teams aren’t going back to allowing just a few cheaters to win. The public loves a free market.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22387 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:39 pm to
False! Bad product
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28330 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:48 pm to
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False! Bad product


On the field?

How so?
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13263 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:57 pm to
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“I won the natty with a bunch of old arse, well coached, cheap guys I already knew at James Madison, I don’t think I’ll be able to sustain that going forward.”

Maybe not but this guy can.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28330 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:11 pm to
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Just because a bunch of old grumpy coaches are whining in the press 


You mean guys like Cignetti?

The vast majority of coaches and AD's are saying the system is unsustainable. You cannot have a team full of mercenaries with little contractual obligations leave after 6 months.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1728 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:13 pm to
Cignetti learned from the master, Saban, about how to cry and whine about all the disadvantages he faces,….boo-hoo, boo-hoo

What is worse is all of you idiots that eat up the outright falsehoods these multi-millionaire coaches throw around.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28330 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:30 pm to
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What is worse is all of you idiots that eat up the outright falsehoods these multi-millionaire coaches throw around


What falsehoods?

Unlimited transfers? Unlimited NIL deals?Players getting 7 years of eligibility?

How in the world are these new rules helping AU? Or are just happy that Bama isn't dominating like it used to?
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7572 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:46 am to
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you are being replaced with fans who love the playoff system and have no problem with the big money


Those new fans are going to get priced out of the market. ADs are already having to find ways to recoup some of the cash being revenue shared directly from the schools. They are also going to have to deal with booster money being eaten up by NIL rather than going to facility upgrades and maintenance. It’s the reason the push for 24 teams in the playoffs is being promoted so hard despite fans saying it’s too many. It’s already affecting the Gameday experience as everything gets monetized and corporatized.

Casual fans also have zero to do with the way the system runs. The old system you complain about where supposedly only some teams were allowed to spend money under the table while other teams suffered losing because they did it the right way has been replaced by a system where teams with the richest boosters who can definitely pay more rise to the top. It’s not a leveling of the field; it’s a more dramatic tilt in a different direction. How is that better?

It’s not like pro sports where all athlete salaries are paid from income and TV revenue. NIL payments are all non-recouped costs, and every year the price to be competitive is going up without some regulation. How long is that sustainable for more than a handful of teams?

Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1728 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 3:40 pm to
Here are two falsehoods from what Cignetti said:

- Something has to be done in 12/24 months or universities can’t handle this. - Not only can universities handle this, they CAUSED it. The greed of university administrators and coaches along with enormous TV contracts they begged for, all while keeping money from the players through artificial constraints are the root of the problem. College football is a money printing machine that will keep operating in spite of the whining of duplicitous coaches and administrators.

- College football won’t exist- Puh-leaze….even the low IQ rantards on this site are not this stupid.

I am not trying to push a narrative to help AU, we have been historically bad the past decade, and I respect how good Bama has been. Saban was the master of working a flawed corrupt system to put great college football teams on the field.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7572 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:29 pm to
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- Something has to be done in 12/24 months or universities can’t handle this


This is not a falsehood. There are already universities cutting sports. There are power 4 schools running multimillion dollar deficits. It’s not going to hurt the biggest brands for a while, but there are some schools who are already hurting. If $40 million+ in booster cash going straight to players in NIL is what it takes to be competitive every year, its is going to effect how much boosters donate to schools. It’s ludicrous to think otherwise. How are schools going to replace those lost donations?
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1728 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:42 pm to
You yourself identify it as a falsehood by what you wrote.

The falsehood is “universities cannot handle this”.

Then you describe the dilemma as more of a business problem of what money is going to go where. Boosters money going directly to players instead of to the hallowed ivory towers filled with hypocrites that want their cut of the cash. If they do not get this cash they will have to cut their expenses due to these “lost donations”. Once again, boo-f’ing-hoo.

They will solve this problem and college football will go on as the big business it has become in the last 30-40 years.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71323 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:50 pm to
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They will solve this problem and college football will go on as the big business it has become in the last 30-40 years.



Yep. They will pass the bill that is currently before Congress and perhaps then we can start seeing a return to sanity after the last four years of anarchy.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1728 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:27 pm to
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…they will pass the bill…


The bill that the SEC and the B1G came out against? Yeah, good luck with that.

I prefer letting the free market work, no government intervention.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7572 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:35 pm to
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Then you describe the dilemma as more of a business problem of what money is going to go where. Boosters money going directly to players instead of to the hallowed ivory towers

quote:

They will solve this problem and college football will go on


The second line is kind of the point Cignetti was making. The problem needs solving. You seem to have conceded the point that there is a problem at least.

As to the first, are you under the impression that universities operate without money? This whole notion that sports is a money printing machine is juvenile. The money isn’t unlimited and the costs of operating an athletic department are just going to go up. Look up how many athletic departments are in the red vs in the black. You think cuts won’t hurt the fan experience? Outside of spiraling prices and season ticket surcharges, you are going to get nickeled and dimed out the wazzoo. You think AU would’ve opened that new arena for basketball, which has been awesome for that program, if NIL was in place 5 years earlier?

Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1728 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:39 pm to
Cignetti was not making a point, he was doing what all college football coaches have done for decades, complaining about something that made his life harder and potentially could reduce his personal income.

What I said was COLLEGE FOOTBALL is a money printing machine. I have worked closely with athletic departments at universities and I have NO sympathy for them in general. They have many career bureaucrats doing ridiculous jobs for outrageous amounts of money that should be cut tomorrow if they were serious about running a business. So do not lecture me about what is juvenile relative to money and athletic departments.

I am also not trashing college sports in general; some of the best people I have known were athletes and coaches in minor college sports that went to extraordinary lengths to be good at what they do.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 10:41 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71323 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:57 pm to
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I prefer letting the free market work, no government intervention.



This isn't about the free market. We are talking about government institutions, not private entities. The vast majority of the schools involved in this dilemma are funded almost entirely by federal and state money. In short, our tax dollars. There is no better example of government intervention ever being needed than this situation we find ourselves in right here.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7572 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:12 pm to
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I have NO sympathy for them in general. They have many career bureaucrats doing ridiculous jobs for outrageous amounts of money that should be cut tomorrow


Problem is, they won’t be cutting themselves. It’s the little guys and gals that will get the axe. Look what just happened in Utah. Athletes in non revenue sports will be affected sooner than later. Eventually fans will feel it most. No one’s arguing we should feel sorry for high paid coaches or admins. Few are still arguing that players shouldn’t be getting paid. That doesn’t mean the system isn’t broken and heading for a cliff.
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