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re: Current MLB players who will 100% be in the HOF

Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:12 pm to
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Why? 9 years in


Yeah. Have to play 10 to be on the ballot. So, if he retired today, he's never on the ballot.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:12 pm to
he could take the year off and then retire next year and id vote for him
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:13 pm to
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he could take the year off and then retire next year and id vote for him


He wouldn't be on the ballot for anyone to vote for him.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:14 pm to
he can play in the absolute bare minimum amount of games needed to qualify to be on the ballot and then immediately retire and id still vote for him even if he was a net negative player between now and then
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:16 pm to
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he can play in the absolute bare minimum amount of games needed to qualify to be on the ballot and then immediately retire and id still vote for him even if he was a net negative player between now and then


Fair enough, but if he did that he would be one and done.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:18 pm to
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he can play in the absolute bare minimum amount of games needed to qualify to be on the ballot and then immediately retire and id still vote for him even if he was a net negative player between now and then


Would you vote for Andrew McCutchen?
Posted by diremustang
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:18 pm to
suprised no mention of machado yet. He should have more than 50 WAR by the end of the season and he isnt even 30 yet.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:21 pm to
mookie is pretty safely over the average peak war threshold right now

mccutchen isnt and isnt really close
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 9:23 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:23 pm to
How in the frick has Salvador Perez not been mentioned?

7x All Star
World Series MVP
Most HRs ever for a catcher

Shame on each and every 1 of you
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63396 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:25 pm to
That’s nice. Their careers through age 29 are still very similar

Regardless if Betts did what you say he would have zero chance of getting in
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:27 pm to
Mookie is easily on a HOF pace, but that doesn't mean he's 100% in.

The only people that are 100% in are the ones that are in the no doubt category if they retired today.

Mookie isn't there yet. Neither was Pujols or Miggy at age 29. And their age 29 stats dwarf Betts.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:28 pm to
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Most HRs ever for a catcher

Nope
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104039 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:29 pm to
He must have meant single season.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:29 pm to
Kershaw, Altuve, verlander, Cabrera, judge, Freeman, wainwright, Molina, Soto,
Posted by diremustang
Member since Oct 2017
2287 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

That’s nice. Their careers through age 29 are still very similar
54 WAR vs 37.And with McCutchen having played in 130 more games. They are basically the same player offensively, but Betts is miles ahead on defense
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150130 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Their careers through age 29 are still very similar
hes worth over 2 WAR more than mccutchen through his 9th season. and hes on pace to add another 2 WAR by the end of the year. and thats with the 60 game covid season
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if Betts did what you say he would have zero chance of getting in

i was speaking in hyperbole to make a point about how i would already vote for mookie based on the career he has had to date. he obviously cannot fall off a cliff and become a net negative player for any extended period of time and hope to get in
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104039 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:34 pm to
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Kershaw, Altuve, verlander, Cabrera, judge, Freeman, wainwright, Molina, Soto,


A) You missed the most obvious one.
B) Pump the brakes on Soto.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:34 pm to
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Current MLB players who will 100% be in the HOF


This is a much smaller list than some answers in this thread will indicate. Barring some off field stuff, I believe these are the current locks. I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two guys as well.

Pujols
Cabrera
Scherzer
Kershaw
Verlander
Trout
deGrom (don't care about his low win total)
Yadi ( )

Again, I'm sure I'm missing one or two guys, but it really doesn't seem like a much longer list than this.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104039 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:36 pm to
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deGrom (don't care about his low win total)


Like Betts, he isn't eligible yet. Far from a lock although I would bet on both in the long run.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63396 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:42 pm to
McCutchen gets hit pretty hard on the defensive metrics because he played a bad center instead of playing in a corner like Betts. Defensive metrics 8-10 years ago were pretty bad also. I’m guessing BR is just using UZR

Regardless it’s dumb hypothetical. Andruw was better than Betts and did basically what he’s describing and can’t get in
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 9:43 pm
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