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re: CUBS star Addison Russell's ex wife details horrific abuse.

Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:10 am to
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
11689 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:10 am to
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My point was that anything outside of my own narrow worldview is bullshite and shouldn't even be a "thing", and I am a pissant of a person


Fixed it for ya
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:14 am to
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I am of the old school where if you have a penis you are a boy and if you have a vagina you are a girl

But there are people with penises who identify as people with vaginas. They are on “the other side of” their gender. Hence the word. Whether you like or not, agree with it or not, this is a thing that happens.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42151 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:43 am to
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I am of the old school where if you have a penis you are a boy and if you have a vagina you are a girl....the way it used to be back in the day.

It's hilarious and sad that recognizing the most fundamental aspect of human biology has to be referred to as being old school.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30123 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:29 am to
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Just think if you had to live with your team winning a World Series with him and Chapman on the same roster. Shameful organization. Sad!


Cubs went 108 years without a World Series, and that fan base isn’t near the Astros in terms of insufferability.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37937 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:41 am to
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It's hilarious and sad that recognizing the most fundamental aspect of human biology has to be referred to as being old school.


I know, right??

Even Arnold's Kindergarten kids get it...
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 11:42 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64369 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:51 am to
They got married in 2016, so she's ready to split and start collecting checks.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64369 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:59 am to
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There was enough there that MLB wanted to investigate but she didn't cooperate which is not uncommon with abuse victims.



The MLB was going on words to investigate. You dont start collecting facts until you're already investigating.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80918 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Victims of abuse, usually cisgender women and transgender people, have nothing material to gain by coming forward with allegations, particularly against someone in the public spotlight with legions of fans who will defend their favorite player to an unhealthy degree.


Yeh, and nobody tribalistically supports the accuser who they have never met to a cult-like degree.


Not taking a position either way, but an ex-wife has plenty to gain from lying (specfically, more money in the divorce settlement). Even an ex-GF or a one night stand can make money off of lying, via a lawsuit.

Doesn't mean THIS accuser is lying, but the claim that there's no possible material gain is easily debunked.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64369 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:02 pm to
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I thought MLB did an investigation and found evidence sufficient to support a 75 game ban.



Yeah and the standards are as strict as title IX.


You're accused = you're guilty.
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1720 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:11 pm to
He’s a charitable guy at least. He’s already knocked-up his third baby mama.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Yeah and the standards are as strict as title IX.


You're accused = you're guilty.
And yet no suspension yet for Russell. Maybe it takes a little bit more than just an accusation.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:39 pm to
Holy wall of text on her blog! Anyone have the clifts?

Russell is by no means a star, more of good utility player. I have a hard time believing that if there was serious allegations here that Russell wouldn't be suspended by the organization. I'm sorry but he isn't good enough to let something like this affect the team publicly.

How long have they been together? Married in 2016 and its 2018? So there was years of abuse but she decided to marry him still?

Russell by most accounts does appear to be an A-hole with multiple women pregnant and certainly cheating. But Melisa not cooperating with MLB, marrying him in 2016 after abuse, and now posting this blog just looks like an angry ex spouse trying to get back at him.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63414 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:43 pm to
You basically admit you didn’t read it here

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Holy wall of text on her blog! Anyone have the clifts?



Then draw some strong conclusions on the timeline and accuser even though you didn’t read it here

quote:

How long have they been together? Married in 2016 and its 2018? So there was years of abuse but she decided to marry him still?

Russell by most accounts does appear to be an A-hole with multiple women pregnant and certainly cheating. But Melisa not cooperating with MLB, marrying him in 2016 after abuse, and now posting this blog just looks like an angry ex spouse trying to get back at him.



Strange post
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:45 pm to
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You basically admit you didn’t read it here


I read the first article. I'm not reading 3 page wall of text diatribe blog post by an ex of a player without some at least Clifts.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Clifts.
What are clifts?
quote:

I read the first article
The one that summarized the longer blog post?
quote:

 I'm not reading 3 page wall of text diatribe blog post by an ex of a player
I doubt it would matter.
Posted by tigercubs
RVA
Member since Jan 2010
2452 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:48 pm to
Placed on “administrative leave”.

quote:

ESPNChiCubs @ESPNChiCubs From Cubs: “We take allegations of domestic violence seriously and support the League’s decision to place Addison Russell on administrative leave given new details revealed today. We will continue to cooperate with the League’s investigation so the appropriate action can be taken. 2018-09-21
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:51 pm to
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Clifts.
What are clifts?
quote:
I read the first article
The one that summarized the longer blog post?


The first article explains absolutely nothing about the "abuse". It says he physically hurt her and verbally abused her. What does that mean even without details?

It says "years of Abuse" but that they were basically married for one year before she left him and that the abuse started after they were married for a month. Right?

So yeah, call me crazy, but this looks like a woman that is trying to get back after her ex AFTER they were divorced.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 1:03 pm to
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The first article explains absolutely nothing about the "abuse".
It explains that she alleges
quote:

he physically hurt her and verbally abused her


quote:

What does that mean even without details? 
It means exactly what it says.

quote:

t says "years of Abuse" but that they were basically married for one year before she left him and that the abuse started after they were married for a month. Right?
Did she say years of abuse? That's right, you formed your opinion without reading her words.

quote:

So yeah, call me crazy, but this looks like a woman that is trying to get back after her ex AFTER they were divorced
I don't know if you are crazy or not, but it is clear your opinion was formed without considering what she wrote.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 1:04 pm to
"I was 20 years old, he was my first real boyfriend.

Along with being cheated on with so many different women, I lost all self confidence within myself. I never felt good enough to keep him happy at home, emotionally & sexually. He would complain to me that our sex life “sucked” because I was so tired all the time, FROM TAKING CARE OF OUR INFANT SON, ALL BY MYSELF"

He appears to be an Ahole certainly. They are both young and she was extremely inexperienced with men. He was a struggling and very busy baseball player. It appears he likely drank a lot.

I don't see anything in the blog post talking about any sort of criminal actions. It was a bad relationship that is now over.

What would he be officially suspended over?

Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61024 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Clifts.

What are clifts?


He’s saying that it’s fricking Cliffs.
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