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Could one get away with cheating on baseball stats in HS?
Posted on 6/7/24 at 11:58 am
Posted on 6/7/24 at 11:58 am
Having a discussing with friends and I don’t know enough about it actually works.
He says his kid’s HS JV coach, who also has his kid is on the team, lies for his kid in stat sheet. Like they watch him go 0/4 and then next day it says 1/3. Repeatedly stuff like that. Kid ends up going with varsity for playoffs after JV season ends. Doesn’t play but got “promoted.” They mad. IDK the truth but I believe they believe this happened.
I find it hard believe you could get away with that. Wouldn’t at that level, stats be kept and reported by a third party, even if it’s just a rep of a given school? Wouldn’t it need to add up? Wouldn’t the other pitcher have his own stats and know he gave up 3 hits and not 4?
Just curious
He says his kid’s HS JV coach, who also has his kid is on the team, lies for his kid in stat sheet. Like they watch him go 0/4 and then next day it says 1/3. Repeatedly stuff like that. Kid ends up going with varsity for playoffs after JV season ends. Doesn’t play but got “promoted.” They mad. IDK the truth but I believe they believe this happened.
I find it hard believe you could get away with that. Wouldn’t at that level, stats be kept and reported by a third party, even if it’s just a rep of a given school? Wouldn’t it need to add up? Wouldn’t the other pitcher have his own stats and know he gave up 3 hits and not 4?
Just curious
This post was edited on 6/7/24 at 12:12 pm
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Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:01 pm to ChunkyLover54
I don’t think any decent HC is letting last year’s stats sheets dictate who is making what team or who is getting playing time. Phonies will flop and the talent will become apparent pretty quickly.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:02 pm to ChunkyLover54
Braxxton ain’t getting no scholly batting two fiddy.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:14 pm to Jon Ham
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I don’t think any decent HC is letting last year’s stats sheets dictate who is making what team or who is getting playing time. Phonies will flop and the talent will become apparent pretty quickly.
I agree. And I didn’t even mention how my buddy completely mishandled it and put his kid in a terrible spot like a psycho and at the end of the day basically the gripe is my kid should have suited up and also not played in a couple playoff games.
I just don’t see how it’s possible to fake stuff like that.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:17 pm to tress4pres
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Braxxton ain’t getting no scholly batting two fiddy.
The kid who was allegedly lied for is named Braighlon. lol
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:19 pm to ChunkyLover54
This sounds a lot more like normal baseball parents with hurt feelings making up stuff to justify their complaints
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:21 pm to ChunkyLover54
Doubt his stats mattered. Varsity coach did JV coach a favor and let his kid come to games and hand out water
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:23 pm to ChunkyLover54
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Wouldn’t at that level, stats be kept and reported by a third party,
No way at all is this happening. The coach probably doesn't even know this is happening because his kid is the one calling in the stats.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:26 pm to ChunkyLover54
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Could one get away with cheating on baseball stats in HS?
does it matter? if the kid can play, the kid can play... the cream always rises to the top, so a star hitter, pitcher, or fielder will show out, regardless of what is written on the "stat sheets"
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:33 pm to chRxis
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does it matter? if the kid can play, the kid can play... the cream always rises to the top, so a star hitter, pitcher, or fielder will show out, regardless of what is written on the "stat sheets"
I agree 100% especially in the context I didn’t get into, and told him the same.
At the root my question is about my buddy, who is overall a decent, normal guy I’ve know for years the youth baseball turns him into an irrational psychopath, and the depth of his madness.
I believe he believes this happened. I just seems so unlikely to me.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:36 pm to ChunkyLover54
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Could one get away with cheating on baseball stats in HS?
It's been going on for MANY years.
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I find it hard believe you could get away with that. Wouldn’t at that level, stats be kept and reported by a third party
You gotta be kidding? Who would the 3rd party? LHSAA? They're lucky to be able to verify game scores.
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Wouldn’t the other pitcher have his own stats and know he gave up 3 hits and not 4?
So, if that were the case, who are you believing? Please explain why.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:38 pm to Boudreaux35
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It's been going on for MANY years.
Ok. Fair answer. I genuinely don’t know
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:38 pm to Boudreaux35
I think the most common way this happens is when a pitcher's dad will mark something as an error when it should be a hit, or a hitter's dad saying a hit when it was obviously an error. Something where there is a judgement call/opinion involved. I don't think you can say a strike out is a single and get away with it
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:44 pm to ChunkyLover54
Do they not use GameChanger?
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:07 pm to ChunkyLover54
You absolutely could do it. See the team stat keeper cook the books all the time on GameChanger in youth baseball.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:10 pm to chalmetteowl
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Do they not use GameChanger?
IDK. My kids are not in HS and don’t play baseball anymore. But something like that was used when they were in 4th/5th grade. It was all automated for tournaments. That’s why I find it hard to believe.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:11 pm to ChunkyLover54
The only way to “get them “ is to have real proof and call them out by name. Probably won’t do anything but piss people off but if it’s true and enough people believe it.. something could happen
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:12 pm to generalgator87
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I think the most common way this happens is when a pitcher's dad will mark something as an error when it should be a hit, or a hitter's dad saying a hit when it was obviously an error. Something where there is a judgement call/opinion involved. I don't think you can say a strike out is a single and get away with it
Right. That’s as detailed a question I asked before changing subject. According to them it’s blatant. Like he struck out 3 times and had a hit in stats.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:16 pm to TROLA
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The only way to “get them “ is to have real proof and call them out by name. Probably won’t do anything but piss people off but if it’s true and enough people believe it.. something could happen
From what I understand they completely botched it and certainly pissed people off, lol
Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:22 pm to Boudreaux35
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You gotta be kidding? Who would the 3rd party? LHSAA?
When I was in HS 20+ years ago as a sophomore I got injured early in the year and couldn’t play. Got roped into helping with team and parlayed it with community service thing I had to do. All that stuff was manual and on paper but before stats were finalized, the refs and both teams signed off on it. That was for varsity.
That’s partly why it seems crazy to me, but again, IDK
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