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re: Column: Like it or not, ESPN isn't sticking to sports
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:24 am to ehidal1
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:24 am to ehidal1
quote:When has it ever been otherwise?
The only thing worth a shite is the live sports
We're all longing for an ESPN from years ago, when the best I can recall is that ESPN just ran a rerun of Sportscenter about 7 times a day lol.
They had a few shows along the years, and the vast majority of those were pretty bad as well.
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:25 am to JetsetNuggs
quote:Part of the problem they've created is having multiple channels. They simply can't show highlights 24 hours per day across all of their channels.
What sucks is that it's not as if there aren't enough highlights in sports available that they have to resort to the talking head nonsense. If they showed highlights from every game in the major sports
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:21 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Spot on.
I remember waking up at 6:50 every morning since like 3rd grade to catch the top 10 plays on Sportscenter, then getting ready for school with the first 30 minutes of the 7 o'clock Sportscenter on and getting filled in on all the sports going in. Guess kids these days won't get that little bit of joy every morning.
I remember waking up at 6:50 every morning since like 3rd grade to catch the top 10 plays on Sportscenter, then getting ready for school with the first 30 minutes of the 7 o'clock Sportscenter on and getting filled in on all the sports going in. Guess kids these days won't get that little bit of joy every morning.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:32 am to tigerskin
Let them continue to push false propaganda and one sided politics down their viewers throats.
It will only continue to turn the "I only watch ESPN for live sports" crowd into the "I'll find an online stream if my team is playing on that shite network" crowd.
It will only continue to turn the "I only watch ESPN for live sports" crowd into the "I'll find an online stream if my team is playing on that shite network" crowd.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:37 am to DelU249
quote:
yeah. They hear the viewers and rather than listen to or ignore them they tell them to get fricked baffling
Sounds like a good plan.
That's what I don't understand. I absolutely can't stand the SportsCenter at 6 with Michael and Jemele or whatever the hell it's called, so I change the channel. I literally watch Pardon the Interruption (I do still enjoy it for the most part, plus it gives me a breakdown of the day's sports stories), then change it to ESPN2 for SportsCenter as background noise in my house.
But what is baffling is the commercial for the Michael and Jemele show, where she's like "For the people saying stick to sports...get used to this. It's not going anywhere." So not only does ESPN choose to go with programming different than what the majority of its subscribers want, but it literally makes commercials addressing it and all but tells them to frick off.
Them wanting to give M&J their own show and promote that agenda is fine. But doing it at 6 (which I assume is one of the more popular time slots for SC) is weird. It should almost come on at night since it's trying to hard to be a late night talk show.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:41 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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You used to be able to watch Sports Center and know exactly what was going on in every sport. Knew the standings in baseball, knew players from every team, without having to actually watch a game. Same goes for basketball, and hell even hockey.
Now you only get the same few players and teams being talked about every day. I don't need 10 different people's opinions on if LeBron James sitting out a basketball game is ok or not.
That is definitely true. Nowadays it's the same few topics beaten to death over and over (and over). Especially if something "big" happens (or something random and stupid but with a big name). I've seen SportsCenter shows where they literally have talked about the same thing for almost an entire hour. Yeah, they may throw in 30 seconds of highlights of something or mention something else, but then it's "let's bring in a guest to talk about this breaking news of Tebow hitting a homerun."
It's maddening.
But ESPN has made it's decision, and it will continue to cost them in the long run. You want to focus on a very specific target audience? Fine, just don't be mad when the rest of us are cutting the cord and tuning out. You want to pay inordinant amounts of money for sports? Fine, but just realize that you're losing money already, so you'll have to deal with the consequences of not being able to afford those bills when it comes time to pay up. You want to keep making these stupid decisions? Fine, but now go lay off your employees en masse.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:48 am to CocomoLSU
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But what is baffling is the commercial for the Michael and Jemele show, where she's like "For the people saying stick to sports...get used to this. It's not going anywhere." So not only does ESPN choose to go with programming different than what the majority of its subscribers want, but it literally makes commercials addressing it and all but tells them to frick off.
The true problem with this show is its opinion based with 2 people that are not very diversified or interesting, they can't really talk about much of anything outside of NBA and NFL, which for your flagship show is pretty unacceptable. Like someone pointed out earlier, when SC6 directly followed the Masters there was no coverage of it because the hosts were clueless.
They would be better off switching SVP to this slot, he can talk about basically any sport intelligently. Let those 2 dipshits frick around at 11pm and break down the latest Lamar album.
The person that should have been laid off yesterday is Skipper.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:50 am to BilJ
quote:yep
They would be better off switching SVP to this slot, he can talk about basically any sport intelligently. Let those 2 dipshits frick around at 11pm and break down the latest Lamar album
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:53 am to BilJ
quote:
The true problem with this show is its opinion based with 2 people that are not very diversified or interesting, they can't really talk about much of anything outside of NBA and NFL, which for your flagship show is pretty unacceptable. Like someone pointed out earlier, when SC6 directly followed the Masters there was no coverage of it because the hosts were clueless.
They would be better off switching SVP to this slot, he can talk about basically any sport intelligently. Let those 2 dipshits frick around at 11pm and break down the latest Lamar album.
Agreed. I remember thinking it was weird as hell that SVP was so popular and ESPN tried to capitalize on that, and they gave him his own show. At fricking midnight.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:56 am to CocomoLSU
yeah I love SVP but I basically never watch that show. At that point in the day, if I'm up I'm watching something else because I've had my fill of sports by then.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:59 am to lionward2014
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I remember waking up at 6:50 every morning since like 3rd grade to catch the top 10 plays on Sportscenter, then getting ready for school with the first 30 minutes of the 7 o'clock Sportscenter on and getting filled in on all the sports going in. Guess kids these days won't get that little bit of joy every morning.
They'll just grab their tablet and catch the highlights on their own, that's the way we're moving to.
Seems like many think the idea of replaying the same Sportsceter 5 times in a row was a ratings bonanza.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:00 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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You used to be able to watch Sports Center and know exactly what was going on in every sport. Knew the standings in baseball, knew players from every team, without having to actually watch a game. Same goes for basketball, and hell even hockey.
I don't think many people still do that. Back in the day, it was either wait for tomorrow morning's paper or catch 11:00 sportscenter, and it was my only chance to see highlights of my team. Now, you just pull standings, stats, and highlights up on your phone or computer. Or watch MLB Network or NBA, etc.
There is also a lot more competition for live games. National broadcasts are not what they used to be, b/c many people already have access to whatever game they want to watch, and there are other networks broadcasting national games nightly.
I think live sports and highlights are no longer enough to sustain ESPN's business model. But talk shows and original content probably won't be either.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:01 am to CocomoLSU
quote:Without looking, I'd assume the ratings were tanking or they wouldn't have made the change.
which I assume is one of the more popular time slots for SC)
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:02 am to tigerskin
This type of concept worked great for MTV when they didn't stick to music videos.
I honestly haven't watched MTV in well over a decade.
I honestly haven't watched MTV in well over a decade.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:05 am to Speedy G
quote:Yea, people waiting for 6pm next day Sportscenter show to get their highlights fix are on the same playing field as those who wait for their morning paper to check boxscores, that's primitive. I'd guess ratings were way down, and that prompted the change.
I don't think many people still do that. Back in the day, it was either wait for tomorrow morning's paper or catch 11:00 sportscenter, and it was my only chance to see highlights of my team. Now, you just pull standings, stats, and highlights up on your phone or computer. Or watch MLB Network or NBA, etc.
I agree with BilJ though...granted I haven't watched 1 second of the new SC6 show, but having 2 hosts that almost literally know nothing about the majority of sports is not really a good idea.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:12 am to Speedy G
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I think live sports and highlights are no longer enough to sustain ESPN's business model.
I agree with that, no doubt. Especially in this day of technological age.
My main problem is that they don't have a show that shows highlights of everything anymore. Like someone said, you used to be able to watch SC and get updated on everything, including highlights. Nowadays, you can watch an entire episode of SC and not only not see more than one highlight (if any at all), but you may not even get a mention of the game you wanted to see/know about.
If they want to get political, that's fine. Have a political show. But don't take away what got you there in the first place. It's the complete abandoning of the highlights (in a lot of cases) that has me pissed. It's 3-5 topics, all the time, for the entire show. They should call it something other than SportsCenter if they want to do that. If I knew I could tune into a show called "SportsCenter" and just catch highlights, I would do just that. And I would pass on the other talking head shows and political banter shows (just like other people may do just the opposite).
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:18 am to CocomoLSU
quote:Just throwing this out, but doesn't most cable plans with ESPN include ESPN News? I have no clue, I just know I've always had both.
My main problem is that they don't have a show that shows highlights of everything anymore. Like someone said, you used to be able to watch SC and get updated on everything, including highlights. Nowadays, you can watch an entire episode of SC and not only not see more than one highlight (if any at all), but you may not even get a mention of the game you wanted to see/know about.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:22 am to tigerskin
Pretty hilarious how badly managed they are. They are hemorrhaging money, laying off people left and right, losing viewers at insane rates yet doubling down hard on their failed new platform.
How does this not get stopped at some point as it moves up the corporate ladder. Do they not have anyone with sense working at ESPN, ABC, Disney??
How does this not get stopped at some point as it moves up the corporate ladder. Do they not have anyone with sense working at ESPN, ABC, Disney??
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:23 am to RandySavage
quote:The new platform hasn't failed.
doubling down hard on their failed new platform.
Their issue is the structure of cable and the majority of cord cutters never watching ESPN. As much as people talk about how much worse ESPN is, the vast majority of their struggles have zero to do with that.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:28 am to shel311
The vast majority of their struggles have nothing to do with the fact that what should be their target audience doesn't want to watch the content they are showing?
Interesting take, maybe Mike and Jemelle can get you on SC6 to share it.
Interesting take, maybe Mike and Jemelle can get you on SC6 to share it.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 11:30 am
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