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re: College Football Week 1/Futures Bet Thread

Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:02 pm to
Bump.. Getting close boys!
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:28 pm to
I capped Florida-UMass yesterday and Mississippi State-South Alabama today

Both my head and excel lean toward Florida, and both my head/excel say that there is no profitable side in the MSU/USA game.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:37 pm to
Betting market specialist checking in... Who really cares about on-field analysis anyway?

Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:41 pm to
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Betting market specialist checking in... Who really cares about on-field analysis anyway?




Have you checked up on any RLM yet?

I know for the Thursday games, Wake Forest and Appalachian State have been in on the RLM gravy train
Posted by ChemE in the OP
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:44 pm to
I usually don't get into it too much until the week of games, need total volume and book limits to go up for meaningful movement.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:44 pm to
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Getting close boys!



Soon thank goodness. I have done terribly for basketball and baseball. I just get bored and bet on random games.

Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 5:25 pm to
Nugget what do the sheets say about Clemson/Auburn?

Clemson is the play?
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 5:34 pm to
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Nugget what do the sheets say about Clemson/Auburn?


Yea

I'm not at work right now but I do recall Clemson being treated favorably

What I do is cycle through every possible spread a half point at a time to show when the side stops being profitable. I want to say the Clemson side was profitable all the way up to -9.5 and -10 is when it stopped showing a profit

In my own capping I basically read some preseason sources I trust(Phil Steele, Bill Connelly) to see what a team brings back, what it loses, how they were last year, what is expected this year, and come up with what the line "should" be. I usually spend about an hour on each team, I do this before running Excel so I am not biased.

In my own capping I determined that the line should be Clemson -10. So I see some value playing them where they are right now at -7 or -7.5. I think Auburn is getting treated a bit too favorably here. Clemson doesn't have many question marks.

I only have 4 games left then I will show my entire roster
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:07 pm to
Love this thread.

Question for everyone...

What are your sites/sources for info to read up on matchups or teams?
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:09 pm to
I do a lot of my own research with stats. Foxsports normally has a good set up for that stuff. they show some matchups of stats.

I will read covers and stuff like that to see other peoples breakdowns of the games just to get different takes. doesnt really hold much water in my mind
Posted by Zipfer2022
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:14 pm to
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Clemson doesn't have many question marks.


Their defense is a big question mark.

Two games stand out to me early. Boston College +4 in Ireland against GA Tech and South Carolina +3.5 at Vandy.

Towles transferred to BC so their offense will improve and they return a top run defense to defend the triple option. Will Muschamp will have USC ready to go for the opener. That game is a must win out the gate for him.

Going into my 6th year betting. Always makes this time of year exciting
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:15 pm to
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What are your sites/sources for info to read up on matchups or teams?


Avoid traditional stats as they do not tell a good story. Garbage like points per game, yards per game, passing yards per game, etc. are meaningless since they are not opponent or pace adjusted. A team who passes for 300 yards vs. Directional State Tech School of the Blind will get treated the same as someone who throws for 300 vs. Alabama

Use this link: LINK for advanced stats that are more predicative.

I don't know when Football Outsiders updates their info for the 2016 season but right now S&P preseason ratings can be found at LINK and FEI preseason ratings can be found at LINK

They are the stats I use for my excel spreadsheets and my own capping
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 6:31 pm
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:17 pm to
I hate these high numbers in the first game of the season. Nebraska has 3 guys on the oline that haven't played a snap of real football. Fresno State is in bad shape but it's like they're a bad FCS team.

UW just isn't that potent on offense.

These two stick out a lot to me
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:18 pm to
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Boston College +4 in Ireland against GA Tech


This one is tough. After I capped it myself I thought BC +4 was the way to go but my excel sheets are saying Georgia Tech. I do not think Georgia Tech is as bad as they were last year and will improve. But I think BC's defense, with a month to prepare, should be ready for the Georgia Tech attack. Especially on a neutral field where things could get funky.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:22 pm to
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I hate these high numbers in the first game of the season. Nebraska has 3 guys on the oline that haven't played a snap of real football. Fresno State is in bad shape but it's like they're a bad FCS team.

UW just isn't that potent on offense.


I took a long look at the Fresno-Nebraska game, and I hate hate hate playing heavy chalk square favorites like that in Week 1, but I think the line should be closer to 33-35. So anything Nebraska under 31 has value, in my opinion. Fresno State is that bad. Crazy how much they have fallen off since 2013. Nebraska was better than their 5-7 record last year and they will improve.

UW is a big head scratcher. I think Rutgers will be hot garbage, but Washington is not a team built to blow people out. UW certainly has the talent and ability to win by 30+, but the question is will they. It's still a young team capable of beating themselves. I think UW was the play at -24, but now its in the 26 range which may be asking too much. My gut says the final score of this game is 34-13 where UW has plenty of chances to cover, but keeps having to settle for FGs or turning the ball over with self inflicted wounds.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:25 pm to
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goldennugget



second two links dont work


At least for me. its TD address then the website address
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:27 pm to
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UW just isn't that potent on offense.

As bad as the offense was last year, the average margin of victory in the 7 wins was 30 points. Last season was basically all blowout wins and close losses. So not sure where the theory came from that UW isn't built to blow out bad teams like Rutgers. The offense should be much improved this year and the defense just as good or better.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 6:28 pm
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:32 pm to
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second two links dont work


Fixed

Man I am just glad I finally have people to talk about this shite with. I've been spending multiple hours a day the past few weeks studying these matchups. Glad I can finally share ideas with others.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:34 pm to
If I had to place bets today for week one I'd be on North Carolina and Auburn.
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:36 pm to
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As bad as the offense was last year, the average margin of victory in the 7 wins was 30 points. Last season was basically all blowout wins and close losses. So not sure where the theory came from that UW isn't built to blow out bad teams like Rutgers. The offense should be much improved this year and the defense just as good or better.


I expect UW win comfortably. However, I don't like to bet big margins in week one, especially between power 5 teams. Rutgers is still going to have some decent athletes and offenses tend to play sloppy in week one.

I know you expect a much improved offense but the offense last year was below average in the PAC - 12. The offense still has some deficits that won't be fixed with a year of experience.

Also, those wins were SAC St., Oregon St, Arizona and WSU without Falk. Rutgers is that level of bad but my problem is it being the first game of the year.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 6:39 pm
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