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re: College Football Needs This Playoff System

Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:23 pm to
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yes, but haven't we concluded by now that record isn't the best gauge of a team's strength?


Its the best and most "fair" gauge when comparing teams playing the same or similar schedule, its not the best gauge when the comparison is between teams that play vastly different schedules. In the SEC Tenn went 7-1, Florida 6-2, LSU 5-3. Tenn also beat UF and LSU. Using the SEC schedule is by far the best method to determine who was best SEC team. Any objective SOS formula will give you the same result anyway. Its when the quality of opponents is different or even just playing completely different opponents that its not necessarily the best method to judge between 120 teams. Certainly Boise going 12-0 on their schedule is better than going 9-3 on an SEC schedule and they should be ahead of teams with multiple loses. Now 12-0 on their schedule might not be as good as 11-1 on an SEC schedule and is not as good as 12-0 on an SEC schedule.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 4:28 pm
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:54 pm to
Here is how this plan would have looked for the past six seasons. The teams numbered above eight would have been left out but had some kind of case. Champ is if they won a BCS conference. Let me know if you see any mistakes.

2009
Rank Team Rec BCS Champ?
1 Alabama 13-0 1 Y
2 Texas 13-0 2 Y
3 Cincy 12-0 3 Y
4 TCU 12-0 4 N
5 Florida 12-1 5 N
6 Oregon 10-2 7 Y
7 Ohio St 10-2 8 Y
8 Ga Tech 11-2 9 Y

9 Boise St 13-0 6 N

2008
Rank Team Rec BCS Champ?
1 Oklahoma 12-1 1 Y
2 Florida 12-1 2 Y
3 Texas 11-1 3 N
4 Alabama 12-1 4 N
5 USC 11-1 5 Y
6 Utah 12-0 6 N
7 Penn St 11-1 8 Y
8 Cincy 11-2 12 Y

9 Tex Tech 11-1 7 N
10 Boise St 12-0 9 N
11 Va Tech 9-4 19 Y

2007
Rank Team Rec BCS Champ?
1 Ohio St 11-1 1 Y
2 LSU 11-2 2 Y
3 Va Tech 11-2 3 Y
4 Oklahoma 11-2 4 Y
5 Georgia 10-2 5 N
6 Missouri 11-2 6 N
7 USC 10-2 7 Y
8 West Va 10-2 9 Y

9 Kansas 11-1 8 N
10 Hawaii 12-0 10 N

2006
Rank Team Rec BCS Champ?
1 Ohio St 12-0 1 Y
2 Florida 12-1 2 Y
3 Michigan 11-1 3 N
4 LSU 10-2 4 N
5 USC 10-2 5 Y
6 L'ville 11-1 6 Y
7 Wisconsin 11-1 7 N
8 Oklahoma 11-2 10 Y

9 Boise St 12-0 8 N
10 Not Dame 10-2 11 N/A
11 Wake For 11-2 14 Y

2005
Rank Team Rec BCS Champ?
1 USC 12-0 1 Y
2 Texas 12-0 2 Y
3 Penn St 10-1 3 Y
4 Ohio St 9-2 4 N
5 Oregon 10-1 5 N
6 Georgia 10-2 7 Y
7 Va Tech 10-2 10 Y
8 West Va 10-2 11 Y

9 Not Dame 9-2 6 N/A
10 Miami 9-2 8 N
11 TCU 10-1 14 N

2004
Rank Team Rec BCS Champ?
1 USC 12-0 1 Y
2 Oklahoma 12-0 2 Y
3 Auburn 12-0 3 Y
4 Texas 10-1 4 N
5 Cal 10-1 5 N
6 Utah 11-0 6 N
7 Georgia 9-2 7 Y
8 Va Tech 10-2 8 Y

9 Boise 11-0 9 N
10 Louisville 10-1 10 N
11 Michigan 9-2 13 Y
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
47157 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 5:25 pm to
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you mean the plan in which there may or may not be a round of playoff games? good luck with that...


Yeah, if they aren't needed, so be it.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 11/12/10 at 10:53 am to
If system was in place, I think the voters would look at the situation and vote up Boise or TCU if necessary. For instance, Wisconsin would have been passed by Boise in 2006.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13247 posts
Posted on 11/12/10 at 1:56 pm to
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We need to move power away from the pollsters and computer polls that are determining who plays in the title game. This is preposterous. It is a joke. And potentially corrupt. Granted, in my system, the BCS ranking will still be used to determine the at-large teams, in addition to seedings. But the BCS poll will not get to decide the two teams that will play for the title, like is the case today. What we currently have is a complete joke of a system.

Exactly freaking right.
Posted by LSUandAU
Key West, FL & Malibu (L.A.), CA
Member since Apr 2009
5164 posts
Posted on 11/12/10 at 2:38 pm to
I like the 8 team approach, but would just take take the top 8 in the BCS period. Too bad for number 9. Better to leave out number 9 than number 3 from a chance like now.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6327 posts
Posted on 11/12/10 at 3:20 pm to
I think the best way is to incorporate a few "play-in" games the same weekend as the conference championships.

For example, this year Boise St might play the PAC10 regular season champ and TCU might play the BigTen regular season champ. That eliminates at least two possible contenders.

It keeps the bowl structure in place so the pro-bowl crowd doesn't object as much.
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