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re: College Football Needs This Playoff System

Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by The Easter Bunny
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:00 pm to
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And in 2008, under my revised system in which you must be in the top 12 to qualify:

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Texas, Alabama and Utah would have been the at-larges, since Ga Tech would not have qualified.


GT wasn't even the ACC champ in 2008, just the highest rated team in the BCS. I posted on the first page of this thread who the conference winners were and who the at-larges would have been with your original method of BCS conference champs + next two highest ranked teams
Posted by The Easter Bunny
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:04 pm to
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Exactly, a 16 team playoff ELIMINATES the biased human polls and the flawed computer polls.


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You'd have a NCAA selection committee determing the at large bids, much like basketball.



And this magical committee would have no bias? Have you seen the horrible job basketball and baseball have done with national seeds in the past?
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:04 pm to
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Well, if they tell them that they literally have no chance of winning the national title before the year starts, then at least they know before the season starts.
well, in the current system and in my system, that is not the case...they do have a chance before the season starts, albeit a slim one if they have scheduled two or less games against BCS conference schools, like most non-BCS schools do.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:04 pm to
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did we not deserve it?


Yes and no. But that's why I don't like expansive playoffs or taking a team that wins a conference or division automatically just because they won something. We had the 3rd best record in the SEC, would should not have gotten a 2nd chance to win it. The SEC West was garbage in 2001. Finishing 2nd in the East was a greater accomplishment.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:05 pm to
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Exactly, a 16 team playoff ELIMINATES the biased human polls and the flawed computer polls.
why 16? and how does it eliminate the bias?
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:05 pm to
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they do have a chance before the season starts
I'll believe it when/if one actually makes the championship game.

ETA: Many have gone through the season undefeated so far and have been given no chance.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:06 pm to
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GT wasn't even the ACC champ in 2008, just the highest rated team in the BCS. I posted on the first page of this thread who the conference winners were and who the at-larges would have been with your original method of BCS conference champs + next two highest ranked teams
right...same result...VT would not have been included.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:08 pm to
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We had the 3rd best record in the SEC
yes, but haven't we concluded by now that record isn't the best gauge of a team's strength?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:08 pm to
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And here come the frustrated personal attacks. Woohoo


not frustrated, but if you can figure out that West Va is a better opponent the ULM, or that Va Tech is better than Toledo, then you are either just being an arse or do not know what you are talking about, sorry. Going 11-1 in the Sun Belt is a lot easier than going 11-1 in the SEC or big 10,
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:09 pm to
XIV actually posted the best plan I've ever seen.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:10 pm to
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ETA: Many have gone through the season undefeated so far and have been given no chance.
and, technically, why do you think that was the case?
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:10 pm to
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I say we make the entire season one big single elimination tourney. THAT would be awesome!!!!!!


agreed.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61008 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:11 pm to
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Well, if they tell them that they literally have no chance of winning the national title before the year starts, then at least they know before the season starts.


They all have a chance. It might be very slight, but technically no one is eliminated. The 16 seeds in the BB tourney have no chance. Its silly to pretend otherwise. They play to make the tourney. Which they make by winning their conference.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:11 pm to
I think that West Virginia is better than ULM and what-not but SOS doesn't really have much to do with my argument. No place outside of the NCAA uses it to determine a championship unless maybe it's about the 8th tiebreaker in some league's playoff format.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:12 pm to
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They all have a chance.
Like I said, I'll believe it when/if it happens. I've seen many go undefeated but none ever given a shot.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:12 pm to
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and, technically, why do you think that was the case?
Because it's an opinion-based system and the opinions didn't think those teams were good enough.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61008 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:13 pm to
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I'll believe it when/if one actually makes the championship game.


No #16 seed in the Basketball tourney has won a game, let alone made the Final how do they have a chance? The lowest seed to make the Final Four is #11.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:15 pm to
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how do they have a chance?
I don't advocate the NCAA Basketball playoff format either (way too many at-large teams). However, the 16 seeds are put on the same court as the 1 seeds with the same rules governing the game they are playing and, well, may the better team win.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:20 pm to
I got to run. I know what I want will not be implemented any time soon but, for some reason, college football is still by far and away my favorite sport.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:21 pm to
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XIV actually posted the best plan I've ever seen.
you mean the plan in which there may or may not be a round of playoff games? good luck with that...
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