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re: College Football Needs This Playoff System
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:45 pm to Chicken
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:45 pm to Chicken
I'm a fan of a 4 team playoff. Keep the BCS for seeds.
#1 plays #4 - BCS Bowl #1
#2 plays #3 - BCS Bowl #2
National Championship - BCS Bowl #3
This would only extend the season one game for two teams.
Yes, one BCS bowl would get left out each year. Let them choose their matchup for their bowl. No restrictions. They can pick from any teams, bowl eligible, besides the #1-#4 ranked teams.
I think people looking for 8 or 16 team playoffs are asking for too much. Too drastic of a change IMO for the NCAA to go to that.
#1 plays #4 - BCS Bowl #1
#2 plays #3 - BCS Bowl #2
National Championship - BCS Bowl #3
This would only extend the season one game for two teams.
Yes, one BCS bowl would get left out each year. Let them choose their matchup for their bowl. No restrictions. They can pick from any teams, bowl eligible, besides the #1-#4 ranked teams.
I think people looking for 8 or 16 team playoffs are asking for too much. Too drastic of a change IMO for the NCAA to go to that.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:47 pm
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:45 pm to Chicken
Four team playoff. Move the season up a week. Play the first round game the week after CCG's at the #1 and #2 home fields. So the first playoff week then is the same week as the CCG's now. Then do bowl selections (including the teams that lost the first round playoff games), award the Heisman, etc, like we do now, with the two winners playing in the NCG at a neutral site.
IMO, this is the best way. It eliminates complaints from anyone, and keeps the regular season meaningful. It still keeps the bowl system completely intact (and not with playoff games that are "bowls" in name only). It's not that much added effort. Very little extra travel, and logistics aren't a huge issue. There can be no complaints about school/class/exams. In my opinion, this would be the best possible option for college football. My only concern is if this would eventually lead to a larger playoff, which would be a bad thing.
IMO, this is the best way. It eliminates complaints from anyone, and keeps the regular season meaningful. It still keeps the bowl system completely intact (and not with playoff games that are "bowls" in name only). It's not that much added effort. Very little extra travel, and logistics aren't a huge issue. There can be no complaints about school/class/exams. In my opinion, this would be the best possible option for college football. My only concern is if this would eventually lead to a larger playoff, which would be a bad thing.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:49 pm to Chicken
If you're not going to give teams in the MAC, C-USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and WAC a fair shot, why don't you just propose that these conferences form their own subdivsion?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:50 pm to Gmorgan4982
Great idea.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:51 pm to Baloo
quote:Me too. That's why my preferred system would be a 12-team playoff with one at-large team.
I'm not in love with it, as I'm against at large bids
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:51 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
BTW, GMorgan, they have the choice of being in 1-AA and having a "fair shot" or being in 1-A and getting $$$. Obviously, you see what they chose.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:52 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Well, if "1-A" accepts them as a team in their system, they should get a fair shot at the championship, IMO.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:53 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:your idea would still give all the control to the BCS poll (ie, humans and computers). I don't think that is a good thing.
I like a playoff with the 8 best teams period.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:53 pm to Gmorgan4982
Maybe they should bring up a complaint about it, then, themselves.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:53 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
I'm against giving BCS or playoff spots to conferece champs automatically. I believe you should take the top 8 BCS rankings regardless of conference. AFter all, you want the 8 best teams.
If I had my choice I'd agree with that
Conference champ based systems are politically viable - because they give the major conferences a reason to participate.... but they can be really flawed when they place little to no value on OOC games and can value some in conference games more than others (some games won't matter much at all)
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:53 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
Me too. That's why my preferred system would be a 12-team playoff with one at-large team.
Yes, let's put 3-loss Troy in over 1-loss Ohio State.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:54 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
So a school should have to file some type of formal complaint to get a fair shot at a championship under a supposedly fair system? 
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:55 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:Fine by me. OSU needs to win their conference and stop whining and Troy is going down in round #1 anyway.
Yes, let's put 3-loss Troy in over 1-loss Ohio State.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:55 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:that is not for me to propose, but I am guessing that would be program suicide for many of these schools.
why don't you just propose that these conferences form their own subdivsion?
Anyhow, there are already two groupings in Div 1-A...BCS and non-BCS...
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:55 pm to Gmorgan4982
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So a school should have to file some type of formal complaint to get a fair shot at a championship under a supposedly fair system?
Nobody is forcing them to play 1-A football. They have CHOSEN to do so.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:56 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Well, if "1-A" accepts them as a team in their system, they should get a fair shot at the championship, IMO.
this is awfully socialistic of you
What if a handful of conferences, say The SEC, Big 10, Big 12, ACC, Big East, Pac 10 decided, they don't care about a championship and just decided they would rather have bowls so more teams could get an extra game?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:56 pm to Chicken
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that is not for me to propose,
Well let me be the first to propose that you propose it.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:57 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
So if they are being allowed to play 1-A football, why can't they be given a fair shot at the national championship?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Well, whatever they want to do, I guess.
What if a handful of conferences, say The SEC, Big 10, Big 12, ACC, Big East, Pac 10 decided, they don't care about a championship and just decided they would rather have bowls so more teams could get an extra game?
Either way, I don't accept the current system or the proposed system as a legitimate way to crown a national champion.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:59 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:I wouldn't want to propose it. I would like a Boise or TCU to get a chance, assuming their regular season schedule and record were strong enough to warrant them into the discussion.
Well let me be the first to propose that you propose it.
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