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Clemson Is Being Overblown Going into the CFP
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:51 am
I get it, they won the title last year in convincing fashion, but with a defense that isn't coming through any of the tunnels in Glendale or NOLA, if they make it to the latter. So, what is lingering from last year that has everyone saying Clemson is the most dangerous team in this playoff?
Their most "convincing" wins are either against a 7-5 Texas A&M or a weak Virginia club that benefited from playing in a weak ACC.
Trevor Lawrence has thrown for 300 yards only twice all season, once against Syracuse (395 yards) and once against Virginia (302).
Etienne has been impressive with over 8 100+ yard rushing games, but offset that with they have only five games where any receiver was over 100 yards receiving.
They've compiled their reputation on the back of wins against powerhouses sporting a combined W-L record of 80-76, with the best records of that group belonging to an 8-4 Wofford, an 8-4 Wake Forest, and a 9-3 Virginia; the latter of which is sporting beautiful performances of a 17-9 loss to a juggernaut Miami and a 28-21 loss to equally scary Louisville.
Point being, Clemson fans, you heard it last year and proved you were good enough. You deserve to hear it again this year, because you haven't played anyone worth a shite. Late December is a hell of a time to play your first real competition.
Their most "convincing" wins are either against a 7-5 Texas A&M or a weak Virginia club that benefited from playing in a weak ACC.
Trevor Lawrence has thrown for 300 yards only twice all season, once against Syracuse (395 yards) and once against Virginia (302).
Etienne has been impressive with over 8 100+ yard rushing games, but offset that with they have only five games where any receiver was over 100 yards receiving.
They've compiled their reputation on the back of wins against powerhouses sporting a combined W-L record of 80-76, with the best records of that group belonging to an 8-4 Wofford, an 8-4 Wake Forest, and a 9-3 Virginia; the latter of which is sporting beautiful performances of a 17-9 loss to a juggernaut Miami and a 28-21 loss to equally scary Louisville.
Point being, Clemson fans, you heard it last year and proved you were good enough. You deserve to hear it again this year, because you haven't played anyone worth a shite. Late December is a hell of a time to play your first real competition.
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:52 am to CollegeFBRules
I guess we are about to find out 
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:52 am to CollegeFBRules
Can't wait for that showdown with OSU.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:53 am to CollegeFBRules
You kind of forgot to mention Isaiah Simmons the current Butkus winner.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:53 am to CollegeFBRules
They're a great team that has played a shite schedule. But have destroyed said shite schedule. What exactly do you not get?
No one is saying they're the Patriots, but that don't overlook them due to shitty schedule. LSU/Ohio st/Clemson is going to be as close to 50/50 as you can get.
No one is saying they're the Patriots, but that don't overlook them due to shitty schedule. LSU/Ohio st/Clemson is going to be as close to 50/50 as you can get.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:55 am to CollegeFBRules
My eye test says the following:
-50/50 shot against OSU. OSU hasn’t looked awesome in every game the have played. Clemson has destroyed everyone they have played.
- Clemsons offense is legit even against supposed lower competition. You don’t need strong competition to know Etienne and their 2 WRs are NFL caliber
- their defense is suspect. You can beat them through the air
-50/50 shot against OSU. OSU hasn’t looked awesome in every game the have played. Clemson has destroyed everyone they have played.
- Clemsons offense is legit even against supposed lower competition. You don’t need strong competition to know Etienne and their 2 WRs are NFL caliber
- their defense is suspect. You can beat them through the air
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:58 am to castorinho
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What exactly do you not get?
Oh, I get it just fine, but Clemson fan has been insufferably running around talking about everyone being scared of them. They’re a good team, but they definitely haven’t proven anything so far to warrant the bravado.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:02 am to CollegeFBRules
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Clemson fan has been insufferably running around talking about everyone being scared of them.
At one point, this board was inundated with threads from LSU fans ripping OSU being #1 and claiming it wasn't fair to get Clemson instead of OU because Clemson was much better.
It isn't only Clemson fans.
Clemson is interesting, and a big reason I like the playoff. If they're for real despite a soft schedule, they can take down OSU. If the soft schedule masked weakness, we'll see it and get a OSU/LSU final.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:02 am to CollegeFBRules
For the seniors on the Clemson team, this will be their 6th playoff game. The playoffs are a different thing than most of these kids have experienced. That experience is not everything but it is a big thing.
It is not their fault that FSU, Miami and the rest of the ACC have folded up their tents. They have not lost a game since 2017. They are no lock but should be a huge concern.
It is not their fault that FSU, Miami and the rest of the ACC have folded up their tents. They have not lost a game since 2017. They are no lock but should be a huge concern.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:03 am to Rep520
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Clemson is interesting, and a big reason I like the playoff. If they're for real despite a soft schedule, they can take down OSU. If the soft schedule masked weakness, we'll see it and get a OSU/LSU final.
Agreed.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:04 am to CollegeFBRules
Everything you just said is the reason why they're #3 and not #1
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:06 am to CollegeFBRules
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Point being, Clemson fans, you heard it last year and proved you were good enough. You deserve to hear it again this year, because you haven't played anyone worth a shite. Late December is a hell of a time to play your first real competition.
I think last year they played some good teams. A&M was better last year and played them tight, and Syracuse was an above average/good team last season. This season there just isn't anyone there. It's not Clemson's fault.
I feel pretty confident that OSU can run on them. I say that after having heard they haven't given up a 100 yard rusher in like 30+ games. I just think OSU's 3 interior guys are maulers and Clemson's DTs aren't as good as they have been in the past few years.
I expect OSU to have 225 yards rushing in this game. Will that be enough? Not sure but I think this is a game in the 30s for both teams. Something like 38-31?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:07 am to CollegeFBRules
I'm conflicted on this.
-They played a schedule of 13 cupcakes. They have barely played above a high school scheudle and really haven't been tested much at all, all year. They are now about to face 2 teams (maybe) that are so incredibly head and shoulders better than anyone they've played in 12 months. You would think it will catch up to them.
-However...you can say the exact same thing last season and we all saw how that turned out. So wtf knows.
-They played a schedule of 13 cupcakes. They have barely played above a high school scheudle and really haven't been tested much at all, all year. They are now about to face 2 teams (maybe) that are so incredibly head and shoulders better than anyone they've played in 12 months. You would think it will catch up to them.
-However...you can say the exact same thing last season and we all saw how that turned out. So wtf knows.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:12 am to CollegeFBRules
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So, what is lingering from last year that has everyone saying Clemson is the most dangerous team in this playoff?
*The best QB prospect since Andrew Luck
*Two 6'4" future first round receivers
*A fringe first round RB
*A good offensive line
*A defense with plenty of talented players
*A defensive Coordinator that's been watching Ohio State film since October and LSU film since 11/10
^^All those guys have been there and done it before. They know the playoff routine. They know what to expect over the course of the next few weeks and the days leading up to the game(s). They've had to deal with all of the media distractions and fanfare that goes along with the playoffs.
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They've compiled their reputation on the back of wins against powerhouses sporting a combined W-L record of 80-76
They've compiled their reputation on the back of this being their 5th playoff appearance, newboy
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:19 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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They've compiled their reputation on the back of this being their 5th playoff appearance, newboy
I understand why an Alabama fan would be such an ardent defender of Clemson.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:29 am to CollegeFBRules
His comments aren't wrong. It's not like Clemson doesn't belong in the CFBP. They had one near slip up against UNC and the rest of their games were blowouts.
That being said, Dabo is pretty insufferable with his "Ah Shucks...we're just poor little Clemson" sky screaming.
That being said, Dabo is pretty insufferable with his "Ah Shucks...we're just poor little Clemson" sky screaming.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:30 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I'll be interested to see what their receivers do against OSU's secondary. They are studs in every way, but I see a lot of their work being done on the outside over guys as opposed to in the slot/over the middle, where teams have given OSU more problems. I don't know who replaced Renfrow but that is a place on the field that I would try and attack against OSU.
Are Higgins/Ross good over the middle? I just see highlights of their catches near the sidelines all the time
Are Higgins/Ross good over the middle? I just see highlights of their catches near the sidelines all the time
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:33 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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^^All those guys have been there and done it before. They know the playoff routine. They know what to expect over the course of the next few weeks and the days leading up to the game(s). They've had to deal with all of the media distractions and fanfare that goes along with the playoffs.
Also, does this really matter? I'm not saying it does or doesn't, but I think this is a huge talking point and I'm not sure I buy any of it. Do you think it gave Bama an advantage going into the playoffs against UGA/OU? Is OU going to have an advantage over LSU this year?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:37 am to Buckeye06
This LSU team has definitely gone with the "We were not wanted by other schools" campaign. I don't really think the fanfare will get to the majority of this squad or the coaching staff.
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