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re: CJ Stroud is mediocre at best

Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91340 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:06 pm to
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OP is a miserable Saints fan with a hard on for Houston teams. Take it with a grain of salt.


Huh?

Stroud is so mediocre you’re just making stuff up now.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91340 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:13 pm to
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KillerNut9


Stroud is outside the top 20 in most stats. You’d have to cherry pick to even suggest he’s average at anything this year.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41528 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:15 pm to
The media is so thirsty for the next good black quarterback that they anoint them way too soon.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:18 pm to
Perhaps you haven't noticed his OL and receiving corp this year.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27865 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:20 pm to
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Looking forward to it.

I know you’re a Houston fan, and I know deep down you’re not nearly as optimistic today as you were a year ago about both the team and Stroud.
Not true at all for me. I’m just as optimistic about Stroud, and now they know the OL needs a complete overhaul, which has been obvious all season.

This is literally the first year the Texans have tried to compete. This season hasn’t changed anything for me.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27865 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:25 pm to
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Mahomes is ahead of Stroud in every meaningful stat, and most of them by a decent bit.

You’re right though, Mahomes has been mediocre this year and Stroud is still way behind him.
Here’s a stat for you. Stroud has been sacked 35 times this season. That’s the second most in the league. For comparison, Mahomes has been sacked 22 times. Josh Allen has been sacked 13 times.

Stroud’s OL is horrific. If Mahomes was playing behind an OL that allowed him to get sacked 35 times, his stats would be lower than they are.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216139 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:29 pm to
Slackster bringing the heat…..
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91340 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:31 pm to
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Here’s a stat for you. Stroud has been sacked 35 times this season. That’s the second most in the league. For comparison, Mahomes has been sacked 22 times. Josh Allen has been sacked 13 times. Stroud’s OL is horrific. If Mahomes was playing behind an OL that allowed him to get sacked 35 times, his stats would be lower than they are.


I watch a lot of Houston games, but not as much as you obviously. Stroud just hasn’t been good at all, OL not withstanding.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63015 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:34 pm to
He’s definitely struggled this year. The truth for him likely lies somewhere in between his great season last year and how he’s looked this year. And he just turned 23.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27865 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 4:59 pm to
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I watch a lot of Houston games, but not as much as you obviously. Stroud just hasn’t been good at all, OL not withstanding.
He hasn’t been great, but I sense much of it is due to the OL. Even when he isn’t being pressured, he’s worrying about it, and it’s affecting him even on plays where it shouldn’t. If you watch the games, you can see it.

I don’t know if he’s also having a bit of a sophomore slump. It’s impossible to say. But one thing that is a certainty is that the OL is a huge, gigantic reason for his struggles this year compared to last.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26713 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:24 pm to
Picked in the 4th round of my league. He is now available on waivers.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
27525 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:25 pm to
Slowik is gonna go after the season I think. He hasn’t adapted the offense at all to Mixon/Collins/Diggs missing time

The running game is unimaginative, and completely relies on Mixon’s short area quickness to not completely suck

Stroud is getting his arse beat in every game and it shows with his errant passing this year
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
81766 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:29 pm to
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He is having a sophomore slump but his team isn't doing much to help him, the o line has been especially terrible


This. He definitely has taken a step back but he has gotten on his arse quite bit. Terrible OL
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101122 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:34 pm to
He definitely looks like a WNBA player. Dude needs a new haircut so heckin badly
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13492 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:39 pm to
His offensive line collectively has the IQ of a goldfish. Nico Collins has had massive touchdown catches in back to back weeks called back because some jackass going too far down field and illegal shift today. He gets almost no time in the pocket.

(Very salty as a Nico fantasy owner and someone who bet way too much on the Texans ML today).
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101122 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:41 pm to
Why are you skirting the issue of him looking like a WNBA bruiser?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13492 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:47 pm to
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Why are you skirting the issue of him looking like a WNBA bruiser?


Doesn’t he shoot basketball on the sideline to warm up? Hr may be living a double life. :lol;
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216139 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:55 pm to
Isn’t that a o-line coaching problem????
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170698 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 6:16 pm to
I'd argue year 2 is premature to judge his career
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3257 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 6:19 pm to
QB play in the NFL is pretty shite.

Brady said it best. The position has been dumbed down.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 6:22 pm
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