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re: Chandler for Okafor?
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:01 pm to Ryan3232
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:01 pm to Ryan3232
everyone was jacked when we were gonna trade Chandler for two stiffs who were gonna leave in FA last year and now we trade him for 1 legit guy and it's a bad move?
This post was edited on 7/27/09 at 5:03 pm
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Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
after this year hilton, daniels, and butler come off the books for like $13M if we so choose
then next year peja's $14M salary expires also, and i think mopete's $6M deal expires also
2010-11 expiring deals
peja for 15.3
mo pete 6.6
hilton 3.8
i just think if we would just let tyson walk, we could make a play for a 2nd tier FA this year.
and then the next year, we could package a combo of peja, mo pete, and hilton for a stud player
its just my two cents though
not that it matters, it sounds like this deal is all but done
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:02 pm to DirtyDellTiger
Who was happy Chandler was going to be traded to OKC? That was an awful move.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:03 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:
i just think if we would just let tyson walk, we could make a play for a 2nd tier FA this year.
we'd still be WAY over the cap
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:03 pm to DirtyDellTiger
quote:Ik what you are trying to say, but everybodys mad because this trade wont get rid of the money.
everyone was jacked when we were gonna trade Chandler for two stiffs who were gonna leave in FA last year and now we trade him for 1 legit guy and it's a bad move?
I for one....would love for this trade to go through.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:03 pm to emmanuellewis
i remember a few people saying that 2 bigs were better than a hurt chandler.
the money's only an issue because chandler isn't healthy and isn't likely to be again.
quote:
everybodys mad because this trade wont get rid of the money.
the money's only an issue because chandler isn't healthy and isn't likely to be again.
This post was edited on 7/27/09 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:04 pm to emmanuellewis
quote:
we absofrickinlutely have to try and move rasual butler, devin brown, and antonio daniels with one of our contracts taht doesnt expire
bower has to do everything in his power to move peja
I don't know if there is much demand for shitty players who make a lot of money.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:04 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
I'm not saying that he won't end up being a good player, I'm just saying you can't blindly say Thornton will be better than a player who was good enough to last 10 years in the NBA.
So would you be satisfied if Thornton came in and gave us, say, 4.5 ppg next year instead of the 4.4 MoPete was dropping?
This post was edited on 7/27/09 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
we arent getting a big name FA anyway
exactly
dude, if we packaged our expirings right, we very well could be in the running
who wouldnt want to come play with cp
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:06 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:
dude, if we packaged our expirings right, we very well could be in the running
yeah via trade, not via FA
and i think we STILL should package our expirings this year or next year to get a 2 who can slash
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:06 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:
who wouldnt want to come play with cp
People that dont want to play for Byron???
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:06 pm to eyeran
quote:Thornton will score more than 4.5 off the bench imo because he has the ability to drop 10+ on any night off the bench. Dont forget who Kobe scored 81 on!
So would you be satisfied if Thornton came in and gave us, say, 4.5 ppg next year instead of the 4.4 MoPete was dropping?
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
sounds like they're committed to trying and improving and winning even if they have to spend money
there it is
if this is the case, i like the move a lot.
but from all of the past bullshite and being tight arse cheap about it, this trade makes ZERO sense
if shinn wants to spend the money, im fine with it, i like it
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:08 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:
if shinn wants to spend the money, im fine with it, i like it
well this all may take until the middle of 10/11 to fully come to fruition
we may just let daniels/butler walk and let that $10M expire then go for the big trade with peja
then let mo-pete expire
that's $16M/year off the books and we shoudl be able to get somebody good
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:08 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:
tight arse cheap about it
i don't think Shinn has been cheap in new orleans.
Bower is an idiot, and has spent wildly on aging shooters. plus he got lucky and fell into a superduperstar that had to get paid.
This post was edited on 7/27/09 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Okafor is better than anyone the Hornets could have gotten in the future with cap space(assuming we had dealt TC and Peja). I can't see how this is a bad move.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:08 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:if he didnt want to spend the money....he would have given CP3 away a long time ago. But from what ive heard, hed rather spend the money trying to win....then to give up on the next 3 years not trying.
if shinn wants to spend the money, im fine with it, i like it
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
I mean is a "second tier FA" going to be better than Okafor? I'd say he's something around that, with the potential to be better, since he is entering his prime. You're going to overpay for a FA no matter what anyway, might as well do it now instead of being shite for two years.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:09 pm to Ron Mexico
HELL YES !
Then Trade Daniels, Butler, Armstrong and Brown for Michael Redd !
MAKE A RUN at it...
Paul
Redd
Peja
West
Okafor
Bench
Collison
Posey
Thornton
JUJU
Need ONE MORE BACKUP BIG ! Someone to play the 4 or 5 and we are contenders !
Got scoring, Redd and West. Shooting Peja, Redd
Best PG in the league !
Defense Okafor and Posey
Just need one more bench player that can come in and Play 20 mins a game and give us 7 -10 points a game off the bench ! A big preferably!
Then Trade Daniels, Butler, Armstrong and Brown for Michael Redd !
MAKE A RUN at it...
Paul
Redd
Peja
West
Okafor
Bench
Collison
Posey
Thornton
JUJU
Need ONE MORE BACKUP BIG ! Someone to play the 4 or 5 and we are contenders !
Got scoring, Redd and West. Shooting Peja, Redd
Best PG in the league !
Defense Okafor and Posey
Just need one more bench player that can come in and Play 20 mins a game and give us 7 -10 points a game off the bench ! A big preferably!
Posted on 7/27/09 at 5:09 pm to DirtyDellTiger
quote:
you don't think we could win with Paul-West-Okafor, with a competent backup PG to spell Paul. we're not winning championships regardless. as presently constructed, we may not make the playoffs. Chandler's gonna play like 50 games this year tops.
is peja gonna go back to being peja of old and actually making big threes while still playing no defense?
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