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re: CBSSports.com Bowl Projections
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:22 am to rutiger
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:22 am to rutiger
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Did this dude just compare auburn, the #1 team in the country to oregon state (whose terrible) and vt(who lost to a James Madison)? Really?
Not at all. The point I actually did make was that Boise fans were told that Ryan Williams and Jacquizz Rogers were going to shred Boise's run defense too, and that was proven wrong.
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Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:22 am to BeeEssYou
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Our resume also includes the longest active winning streak in the country, wins against VT, Oregon State, and TCU in 2010, two BCS bowl wins in the past four years, a Heisman candidate at quarterback, and three undefeated seasons in the past five years. Even a middle-of-the-road AQ school with that resume, regardless of schedule, would be given the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah..... you're not quite getting the picture here.
When the longest winning streak in the country comes with playing that schedule, it's effect is greatly diminished.
I'd also just like to throw out that Oregon State is mediocre this year, and that playing one good team a year isn't all that impressive.
In fact, undefeated seasons in general when you play the cupcakes that Boise does are far less notable then most one or even two loss seasons for teams with genuinely tough schedules.
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 11:24 am
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:23 am to BeeEssYou
Congrats on the win streak, you want a cookie or better yet, how about a cupcake.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:24 am to BeeEssYou
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VT, Oregon State,
quote:that was last fricking season
TCU
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:24 am to BeeEssYou
resmues, in terms of the BCS, are solely year-to-year
you were rewarded with a BCS selection last year you didn't have to receive, based on your play compared to the rest of the field, in 2009
you have been rewarded with another potential BCS slot in 2010 based on your play in comparison with the field, in 2010
you were rewarded with a BCS selection last year you didn't have to receive, based on your play compared to the rest of the field, in 2009
you have been rewarded with another potential BCS slot in 2010 based on your play in comparison with the field, in 2010
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:24 am to BeeEssYou
I'm here to tell you that Cameron Newton and the supporting cast composed of Dyer, McCalleb, and Fannin are far better than anything Ryan Williams and Jacquizz Rogers can offer.
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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why do you care so much what other conferences do with member teams? honest question
Because AQ teams getting the benefit of the doubt over non-AQ teams affects my favorite team in the polls and affects their BCS chances.
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kind of like how the BCS is a contract among 6 BCS conferences. what part of that contract don't you understand?
Just because six conferences signed a contract doesn't mean that contract can't violate antitrust law.
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 11:27 am
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:27 am to BeeEssYou
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Vanderbilt, Wazzu, Kansas, etc. have only proven themselves to be losers and total wastes of an AQ spot.
WSU and Kansas have won BCS bowls. What AQ spot does Vandy have?
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:28 am to BeeEssYou
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Just because six conferences signed a contract doesn't mean that contract can't violate antitrust law.
If the Rose Bowl wants to have a game between a Big 10 and Pac team because they think its better for them, how is that violating anti-trust?
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:28 am to Ross
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I'm here to tell you that Cameron Newton and the supporting cast composed of Dyer, McCalleb, and Fannin are far better than anything Ryan Williams and Jacquizz Rogers can offer.
And if we play Auburn in the NCG, we'll see how the Boise State defense does at stopping them. Until then, why bother making predictions?
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:29 am to BeeEssYou
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Because AQ teams getting the benefit of the doubt over non-AQ teams affects my favorite team in the polls and affects their BCS chances.
how does vanderbilt affect anything with regards to anything?
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Just because six conferences signed a contract doesn't mean that contract can't violate antitrust law.
assuming it does (which is not clear and it likely doesn't), the BCS has not damaged schools like BSU. it has helped them greatly, especially compared to the pre-BCS system
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:30 am to BeeEssYou
That rushing attack is not going to be stopped by anyone. I say that with full confidence after watching them play throughout the season. After halftime of our game with Clemson the offense has just been on another level.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:35 am to SlowFlowPro
I used Vanderbilt as an example, because if they suddenly got good, the human voters and computers would suddenly forget the decades of constant losing and consider them "more deserving" than a non-AQ school that has won for years. How does that make any sense?
How is giving Boise inequal bowl and TV payouts "helping Boise greatly?"
For the record, the pre-BCS system sucked too. A playoff system is the best possible system and it would also make way more money than the BCS.
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ssuming it does (which is not clear and it likely doesn't), the BCS has not damaged schools like BSU. it has helped them greatly, especially compared to the pre-BCS system
How is giving Boise inequal bowl and TV payouts "helping Boise greatly?"
For the record, the pre-BCS system sucked too. A playoff system is the best possible system and it would also make way more money than the BCS.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:38 am to BeeEssYou
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I used Vanderbilt as an example, because if they suddenly got good, the human voters and computers would suddenly forget the decades of constant losing and consider them "more deserving" than a non-AQ school that has won for years. How does that make any sense?
your history is irrelevant. teams are judged by performance IN THE YEAR IN QUESTION
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How is giving Boise inequal bowl and TV payouts "helping Boise greatly?"
it's a shite ton more money than they got before the BCS
also, they get an inequal share because the nation cares about BCS conferences and schools. these are the producers. they get the ratings that create BCS revenue
it's like the big12...Texas gets more money from the big12 than anyone else within the conference, because they produce the most for the conference. that's fair
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A playoff system is the best possible system
nobody can even agree on a playoff system to switch to
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:38 am to BeeEssYou
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I used Vanderbilt as an example, because if they suddenly got good, the human voters and computers would suddenly forget the decades of constant losing and consider them "more deserving" than a non-AQ school that has won for years. How does that make any sense?
Because voters go season by season. Past accomplishments shouldn't play into the current season after a few weeks of fluidity to remove the bias of preseason polls.
If Vanderbilt goes undefeated and beats many great teams while another team goes undefeated and beats a plethora of cupcakes, how do you try and diminish Vanderbilt's accomplishments that season by bringing up irrelevant past seasons?
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:40 am to Ross
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also, they get an inequal share because the nation cares about BCS conferences and schools. these are the producers. they get the ratings that create BCS revenue
Funny you mentioned that, because Boise/VT was the second-highest rated college football game in history. Boise State gets ratings too.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:41 am to BeeEssYou
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because Boise/VT was the second-highest rated college football game in history
no it wasn't. it was the 2nd highest ESPN game, if memory serves. it was a very hyped game without competition on a holiday night
where were the TCU-BSU ratings last year? 2nd to last of all BCS bowls
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
If these are the types of arguments that will get me owned on arrival to that Boise site... just lol.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:44 am to Ross
i believe everyone here knows that i have invested a little time in the whole BCS/BSU argument
i'm not worried about "getting owned" in this shite
i'm not worried about "getting owned" in this shite
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
The bowl selections are flawed overall.
He has UGA going to two bowl games:
Birmingham: South Florida vs. Georgia
Little Caesars: Northern Illinois vs. Georgia
He has UGA going to two bowl games:
Birmingham: South Florida vs. Georgia
Little Caesars: Northern Illinois vs. Georgia
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