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re: CBSSports.com Bowl Projections

Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Marines4Auburn
Auburn Alum in South Florida
Member since Sep 2009
14926 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:50 am to
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I'm a Boise fan AND a BCS hater.

With out the BCS no one would even consider Boise St right now, it would be only major programs considered.

I'd love to beat War Illegal in the title game, but I'd love even more for Boise to shut up the Ducks' obnoxious fanbase once and for all. They're still making excuses for their two straight losses to Boise.



War Illegal? Not bad, pretty creative.

I don't think your defense would have a shot in hell at stopping Cam and co. Our DL would have a field day chasing Moore all over the place but he would still throw for 300+ yards.
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 10:53 am
Posted by BeeEssYou
Member since Nov 2010
45 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:52 am to
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i'll never understand how you can hate a system that has created the myth surrounding your football team

The only myth that the BCS has created is the myth that all AQ teams are substantially better than all non-AQ teams and are more worthy of the benefit of the doubt.

I just hate the idea of automatic qualifiers as it works today. Even the mere possibility of a shitty school like Vandy having a fluke dominant year and then being handed a far-easier road to a BCS bowl than a non-AQ school that has busted their arse and consistently won is ridiculous.

If you ask me, college football needs a promotion/relegation system like European soccer. Schools like Vanderbilt, Kansas, and Wazzu who never win anything but still collect AQ money should be bumped down to non-AQ status until they get their crap together. On the flipside, schools like Boise State and TCU who consistently win and beat the best should be promoted to AQ.
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 10:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476168 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:55 am to
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the myth that all AQ teams are substantially better than all non-AQ teams

nobody claims all BCS teams are better than all non-BCS teams. hell BCS teams lost to 1AA opponents, like VTech

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I just hate the idea of automatic qualifiers.

well the only part of the BCS that involves automatic qualifiers are exhibition games involving BCS conferences, who, you know, joined to make the system. you can't stop the producers in CFB from trying to produce

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Even the mere possibility of a shitty school like Vandy having a fluke dominant year and then being handed a far-easier road to a BCS bowl t

the SEC is not a "far easier" road unless about 10 Marshall-style plane crashes occur

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should be bumped down to non-AQ status until they get their crap together. On the flipside, schools like Boise State and TCU who consistently win and beat the best should be promoted to AQ.

why do you care what conferences who have nothing to do with the WAC or MWC decide to do with member schools?
Posted by BeeEssYou
Member since Nov 2010
45 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:57 am to
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We would rack up 300 yards rushing and laugh about it.

You mean like Virginia Tech and Oregon State did this year? Or like Oregon did last year against the same defense?

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Then we'd pass the ball over that secondary and laugh some more.

You mean like Hawaii (the nation's top passing attack going into the game) did this year?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:58 am to
New Mexico State
Toledo
San Jose State
Louisiana Tech
Hawaii
Idaho
Fresno State


In that stretch of games Boise arguably played three of the worst teams in division one this year, two very bad teams, one pretty bad team, and one mediocre team.



I would kill for Auburn to play the schedule that they do and get the kind of love they get for playing that schedule.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476168 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:59 am to
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You mean like Virginia Tech and Oregon State did this year?

please don't compare these offenses, especially teh horrible VT offense, to Auburn

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You mean like Hawaii (the nation's top passing attack going into the game) did this year?

hawaii certainly has a dual-threat of run/pass on offense
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 10:59 am to
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You mean like Virginia Tech and Oregon State did this year? Or like Oregon did last year against the same defense?



This rushing attack is exponentially better than the rushing attacks those two teams feature.
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You mean like Hawaii (the nation's top passing attack going into the game) did this year?



I think I like our passing game over Hawaii's. We never really have to use it because nobody can stop our rushing attack, but when we do it's very effective.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:00 am to
Oh how predictable of the media. Always making such bold predictions. They picked us 4th in the West and they still can't handle that.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54721 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:00 am to
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Even the mere possibility of a shitty school like Vandy having a fluke dominant year and then being handed a far-easier road to a BCS bowl


yeah going through florida georgia tennessee south carolina plus at least two of the currently 5 ranked teams in the sec west

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is the myth that all AQ teams are substantially better than all non-AQ teams and are more worthy of the benefit of the doubt.


i'm sure the stats exist somewhere... AQs kill non AQs on the whole like they should

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schools like Boise State and TCU who consistently win and beat the best should be promoted to AQ.



for the 378450th time, they win one tough game, one almost tough game, 10 cupcakes, they qualify
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476168 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:02 am to
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they win one tough game, one almost tough game, 10 cupcakes, they qualify

hell i don't know if TCU has played a tough team or an almost tough team this year
Posted by BeeEssYou
Member since Nov 2010
45 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:13 am to
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New Mexico State
Toledo
San Jose State
Louisiana Tech
Hawaii
Idaho
Fresno State


In that stretch of games Boise arguably played three of the worst teams in division one this year, two very bad teams, one pretty bad team, and one mediocre team.

What part of "THEY ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PLAY THOSE TEAMS" (except Toledo) do you people not understand?

If Boise State had a choice between playing those seven games and playing the top seven AQ schools in a row, they would choose the top seven AQ schools in a heartbeat, let's not pretend that they wouldn't.
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 11:14 am
Posted by BeeEssYou
Member since Nov 2010
45 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:16 am to
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yeah going through florida georgia tennessee south carolina plus at least two of the currently 5 ranked teams in the sec west

It's true that those are tough teams, but when your history of losing gets ignored in an instant because of your AQ status (while consistently-winning non-AQ's get screwed), that's inexcusable. AQ teams should have to prove themselves over a long period of time like the non-AQ's have to do.

Schools like Florida, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, etc. have all proven themselves. Schools like Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Texas A&M, etc. are beginning to prove themselves. Schools like Vanderbilt, Wazzu, Kansas, etc. have only proven themselves to be losers and total wastes of an AQ spot.
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 11:18 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:17 am to
That's not a good point. It doesn't matter how the games appear on the schedule, they are on the schedule. And the thing is, you rank teams based on their resume, and those games make your resume suck.


Sorry for enlightening you about that reality. If Auburn could join the WAC I'd love to play those teams and still get national recognition for doing so.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21903 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:18 am to
Did this dude just compare auburn, the #1 team in the country to oregon state (whose terrible) and vt(who lost to a James Madison)? Really?
This post was edited on 11/21/10 at 11:20 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:19 am to
He compared their offenses, which in itself is laughable.


I'm not sold Auburn doesn't have the best offense in the country. I'll have to wait and see Oregon play some more to figure if that Cal game was just one bad game.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:19 am to
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If Boise State had a choice between playing those seven games and playing the top seven AQ schools in a row, they would choose the top seven AQ schools in a heartbeat, let's not pretend that they wouldn't.


no one wants to play them in that joke of a stadium esp if they can't pay them. Boise is the biggest two faced program about picking and choosing who to play
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476168 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:19 am to
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AQ teams should have to prove themselves over a long period of time like the non-AQ's have to do.

why do you care so much what other conferences do with member teams? honest question
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476168 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:20 am to
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What part of "THEY ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PLAY THOSE TEAMS" (except Toledo) do you people not understand?

kind of like how the BCS is a contract among 6 BCS conferences. what part of that contract don't you understand?
Posted by BeeEssYou
Member since Nov 2010
45 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:21 am to
Our resume also includes the longest active winning streak in the country, wins against VT, Oregon State, and TCU in 2010, two BCS bowl wins in the past four years, a Heisman candidate at quarterback, and three undefeated seasons in the past five years. Even a middle-of-the-road AQ school with that resume, regardless of schedule, would be given the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21903 posts
Posted on 11/21/10 at 11:22 am to
Didn't Nebraska want to play Boise and boise wanted a home and home plus a payout?
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