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re: Cards send Miller to braves...get Heyward
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:30 pm to volfan30
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:30 pm to volfan30
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We traded a player who was leading the NL in WAR for most of the season for four years of a terrible pitcher and the #14 pitcher in the Cards system.
Give me a 1st round pick over Shelby Miller any fricking day.
WAR!
Good God, y'all!
What is it good for?
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:31 pm to beatbammer
Why are we only scrapping the next two seasons? Let's get ahead of the game, and start building for 2020. 
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:31 pm to volfan30
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What do you want to bet?
If you think he gets under that AAV as a 25 year old next winter I will do a sig, avi, etc. for however long you want.
If he gets it, great for him. But if doesn't improve on his current level of production, I don't see it happening. His numbers don't warrant that kind of money. I'd throw some Brett Gardner type money at him right now but that's about it.
I don't even know how to do a sig/avi on this site, nor do I think I have it on for that matter, so I really don't care.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:32 pm to beatbammer
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And he'll continue to be busted outside. And he'll continue to flail at the outside pitch.
WTF are you talking about?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:32 pm to papz
you just compared him to Brett fricking Gardener. Really?!Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:33 pm to volfan30
EYE TEST!!!!!111!!1
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:33 pm to RollDatRoll
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Why are we only scrapping the next two seasons?
What are we scrapping? Shelby Miller is a major league pitcher. Sure, we'll need to find some offensive production somewhere and we now have additional funds to do so, but nothing about this trade screams that we are giving up on the next two years.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:34 pm to Caplewood
Yea I said I'm throw some Brett Gardner type money at him. 13 million dollars a year is as much as I'd go right now.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:34 pm to SwampDonks
Yea but when we offload justin and gattis for prospects, then where does the offense come from?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:35 pm to volfan30
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an above average hitter
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:37 pm to beatbammer
Heyward has a career 127 wRC+. 120 in 2013 and 110 last year. How else would you characterize that if above average doesn't work for you?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:39 pm to volfan30
I'm kinda old fashioned.
Corner out fielder.
11 HR.
58 RBI.
Average as corn bread.
Corner out fielder.
11 HR.
58 RBI.
Average as corn bread.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:40 pm to Caplewood
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Yea but when we offload justin and gattis for prospects, then where does the offense come from?
Link?
I mean I'm all for a semi-rebuild, actually I encourage it because if we don't restock our system, then we're in bigger trouble than any of us even realize. But nothing the Braves have done up until this point have given any indication of that.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:42 pm to beatbammer
Obviously the power numbers have been disappointing. Still an above average hitter though in total. Not sure where you expected his RBIs to come from when you look at who the hitters around him were last year.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:43 pm to volfan30
He will have more protection around him in STL so it should help him some.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:45 pm to SwampDonks
The rumors have been flying about Gattis, and supposedly the asking price is "very high" (per Buster Olney on twitter). Unfortunately, I now think the Braves have a different idea of a high asking price than I do, given that they basically just handed Heyward to the Cardinals for a bag of cookies. There's a reason STL is always in the playoffs and usually in the NLCS, and it's partially because they sucker idiots like John Hart into trades like this.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:47 pm to VADawg
You honestly think the Cards will resign a .262 hitter for $150 million or so at the end of next year?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:48 pm to VADawg
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There's a reason STL is always in the playoffs and usually in the NLCS, and it's partially because they sucker idiots like John Hart into trades like this.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:49 pm to piggidyphish
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Atlanta Braves ?@Braves 2m2 minutes ago The #Braves have acquired RHP Shelby Miller and RHP Tyrell Jenkins from the Cardinals in exchange for OF Jason Heyward and RHP Jordan Walden
Trade rape.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:49 pm to Rig
Baseball is more than just hitting
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