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re: Cards send Miller to braves...get Heyward
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:50 pm to Woopigsooie20
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:50 pm to Woopigsooie20
Not really
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:50 pm to piggidyphish
Well...this is interesting
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:51 pm to Rig
Yes, because I think he'll hit better than .262 there. Heyward will finally start to maximize his potential at the plate in STL while Miller goes 12-11 with a 4.25 ERA.
ETA: I hope more than anyone else does that I'm wrong about Miller and this trade will be worth it in the end.
ETA: I hope more than anyone else does that I'm wrong about Miller and this trade will be worth it in the end.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:51 pm to Rig
Well, Shelby Miller blows.. so in my eyes. 
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:51 pm to Caplewood
And I understand that. But do you really pay $15 mil per year in the future for a guy that takes up a traditionally big hitter position to play defense and risk injury?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:52 pm to VADawg
Ahh I'll ignore you then.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:57 pm to Rig
Miller has #2 potential
He is soft, and needs a kick to the balls, but he has really good stuff. It's up to Shelby to maximize his potential. I think, and have thought since he had his issues last season with Matheny, needed a new start.
And Jenkins, if he can stay healthy, can be a solid #3 or #4 pitcher. He has major upside, his health is the detractor.
To say Braves got robbed is silly. You just got a cost controlled pitcher with talent. And a project with high ceiling if he can over come injuries.
He is soft, and needs a kick to the balls, but he has really good stuff. It's up to Shelby to maximize his potential. I think, and have thought since he had his issues last season with Matheny, needed a new start.
And Jenkins, if he can stay healthy, can be a solid #3 or #4 pitcher. He has major upside, his health is the detractor.
To say Braves got robbed is silly. You just got a cost controlled pitcher with talent. And a project with high ceiling if he can over come injuries.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:01 pm to stlslick
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:10 pm to stlslick
quote:
Miller has #2 potential He is soft, and needs a kick to the balls, but he has really good stuff. It's up to Shelby to maximize his potential. I think, and have thought since he had his issues last season with Matheny, needed a new start.
Completely agree. That softness has to do with age and stubbornness though.
I'm laughing at these posts saying he was so bad he had to start throwing a sinker. That's called learning how to pitch you tards. He's going to be a really good pitcher someday, as long as he stays healthy.
The one knock I've always had besides his tendency to be soft, is that he's a tommy john time bomb.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:11 pm to Rig
Miller is 1 year removed from a 15-9 3.06 era season.
Matheny jedi, mind fricked him last year, by not even using him in playoffs. Then they had issues in Spring training, then later his best buddy, Joe Kelly is dealt. Fragile people, can let things affect them.
JD Drew was similar, when some one lit a fire under his arse, he would tear the fricking cover off the ball. When people let him sulk and be recluse, he would struggle and go into slumps and look really bad. Players would think he doesnt care, but it was just his personality, not that he didnt care.
Matheny jedi, mind fricked him last year, by not even using him in playoffs. Then they had issues in Spring training, then later his best buddy, Joe Kelly is dealt. Fragile people, can let things affect them.
JD Drew was similar, when some one lit a fire under his arse, he would tear the fricking cover off the ball. When people let him sulk and be recluse, he would struggle and go into slumps and look really bad. Players would think he doesnt care, but it was just his personality, not that he didnt care.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:17 pm to Remote Controlled
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The one knock I've always had besides his tendency to be soft, is that he's a tommy john time bomb.
Thankfully the Braves have an amazing talent at preventing Tommy John surgery. Hell, I can't remember the last time a Braves pitcher underwent the procedure!
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:21 pm to Remote Controlled
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Completely agree. That softness has to do with age and stubbornness though.
I'm laughing at these posts saying he was so bad he had to start throwing a sinker. That's called learning how to pitch you tards. He's going to be a really good pitcher someday, as long as he stays healthy.
The Cardinals know nothing about coaching pitchers.
Yet they're going to make Jason Heyward a 30 HR/120 RBI MVP Monster.
Didn't you know that?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:23 pm to stlslick
Here's the other bright side. Atlanta doesn't have to face someone who was 2-0 with a 1.50 ERA against them last year.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:27 pm to piggidyphish
Man, frick the Braves. frick the Cardinals too.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:33 pm to reedus23
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:35 pm to RollDatRoll
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Some felt Tyrell Jenkins had the best breaking ball in the @MLBazFallLeague this year atmlb.com/1sNuqBn
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:38 pm to RollDatRoll
Yeah, I remember the days when Atlanta-Fulton County would sell out to watch Otis Nixon's defense.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:39 pm to beaver
Are we finally going to get a good hitting RF? I don't remember what that is like. At least we keep our best. Freeman obviously was more important.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:39 pm to piggidyphish
Oh frick yes!
Have fun with Miller.
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