re: Can someone provide actual facts on the Astros cheating scandal?

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I find it hard to believe MLB would investigate the Astros to the level they did and not find anything if it was occurring

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I just dont know. I mean this would be hard as hell to catch without someone admitting to it. The banging is pretty easy to prove

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Unless you think MLB would actively cover that up to avoid harder backlash which I guess is possible

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I mean in really hope not. I guess it's possible, but I would see it being more likely if the Astros would have won the whole thing last year. But given that they werent World Series champs, does it really matter at all? I mean we know they cheated, does this part of it matter more? I dont really think so

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You've got to stop parroting this bull shite.

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Parroting??!! Bitch are you drunk??

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I understand it has to do with stealing signs. Stealing signs in baseball is not cheating and has been going on since teams started using signs.

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There is a difference.

Picking up on tendencies or signs with your own eyes and vantage point is fine. That is on the other team to shield that the best way possible.

Having an elaborate system in place to steal signs is a whole other level and completely an unfair advantage. Depending upon what it is they got caught doing.

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A camera was set up in centerfield fixed on the catcher. The feed went to a monitor that was steps from the dugout. A group of team employees decoded the calls and then notified the hitters IN REAL TIME of offspeed or breaking balls. The garbage can banging was how they let them know

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Some people are way too stupid to understand this and to understand that you arent allowed to do that

And, if you believe the WSJ, they were using code breaker to figure out signals ahead of time, stealing signs while on the road as well, and were doing so in the playoffs

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Unless you think MLB would actively cover that up to avoid harder backlash which I guess is possible. I don’t think they would do that though

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Put yourself in their shoes. The *s committed a cardinal sin. Sure, all the other teams have hooked up with an underage girl, but Houston got one pregnant.

The *s’ cheating has put baseball in a bind. One of the game’s most incalculably valuable assets is one every professional sport has: the integrity of its championship. This integrity has been compromised before, but never this much. The severity of the *s’ punishment is inversely proportional to the value of a World Series championship.

This is what *s fans don’t realize: baseball would do anything to protect the *s because protecting them means protecting the value of a title. Manfred has a seriously difficult road ahead because of this (I guess his headache is the only part of the story I like). If you punish the *s appropriately, you admit that the title isn’t real (which we all know to be true) and subject yourself to a slew of class action lawsuits, and it can only get uglier from there.

So the other option is to let the *s somewhat off the hook to protect at least the image of the game’s integrity...leaving the players to settle the rest.

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Unless you think MLB would actively cover that up to avoid harder backlash which I guess is possible. I don’t think they would do that though

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The same MLB that turned a blind eye to roids?

Jfc. The denial you people live in.

Sport leagues turning blind eyes in general isn't unprecedented. Hell, teams like the As complained about this exact situation with the commissioners office multiple times and nothing happened until fiers took matters into his own hands

I think it's a lot more likely that baseball has found no legitimate evidence that a buzzer was used. But I'm not going to completely rule out the possibility that they have and are doing damage control to some degree. It's more "I dont think its true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is"

The World Series trophy is just a piece of metal, you guys

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