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re: Can someone explain to me the significance of hand checking in the NBA?

Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:12 pm to
Being able to physically prevent a guy from a free release is significantly different than not being able to touch him.

It allowed way more contact and leeway. LeBron is a physical freak, and would have been a very good player in that era, but thinking he’d have the longevity he has had is just stupid. He would have worn down way more throughout his career. That’s why glorifying his run of so many games/playoffs is hilarious since it requires you to ignore context and what toll each game took on your body.

That doesn’t have anything to do with scoring either. You ca score a lot of points like in the late 70s and early 80s with that physicality in play, but it still wore you down way more.

The NBA has become the equivalent of a street pick up game where the guy calls every touch a foul. It’s ruining the game and why a lot of people have become less for hard and at best more casual viewers.

It is also why people with little understanding of looking at the whole picture think LeBron is the same in any era. He simply would not be as dominant in that era. Still great, but not the pathetical Self-labeled “King” that he is today.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:32 pm to
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He simply would not be as dominant in that era. Still great, but not the pathetical Self-labeled “King” that he is today.
wish you would’ve put this line at the beginning so I could have stopped reading sooner
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:35 pm to
Any other player gives them self that kind of name in high school and you would be roasting them.

But since it’s LeBron it is okay. He does not take near the physical beating that others did back in the day. Again, I don’t think his first ten years is that different, but the second ten would be nothing like it is today for pampered NBA players.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:42 pm to
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Being able to physically prevent a guy from a free release is significantly different than not being able to touch him.
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It allowed way more contact and leeway.


I don’t think you’re hearing me(that is not meant to sound county)

They were playing checkers back then

What you imagine was a defense clamping down back then would be destroyed with the passing these guys do now. And then they’d run you off 7 screens and be open for an easy bucket.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:58 am to
Hand-checking was nothing more than a mild nuisance, but old guys act like great players today couldn’t handle the league back in their day because of hand-checking

It’s such a silly argument. As if LeBron or Durant would be stopped because of a hand check.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:03 am to
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See Steve Nash whose performance, efficiency, and impact skyrocketed after the handcheck rules were implemented.
What a load of crap. Nash was already a 2-time All-Star when they outlawed the handcheck, and his numbers and efficiency looked exactly the same before the handcheck rule and after.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:19 am to
I seem to remember on an early version of NBA Live, there was a “hand check” button where you essentially just pushed the offensive player. Like shoved em with arms fully extended.

Anyone else remember that?
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:27 am to
OP would legitimately suck Lebrons cock
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:06 am to
Yeah, but what about hand checking?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:29 am to
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But since it’s LeBron it is okay. He does not take near the physical beating that others did back in the day. Again, I don’t think his first ten years is that different, but the second ten would be nothing like it is today for pampered NBA players.




You are full of it dude. Kareem Adul Jabbar went to UCLA for 4 years, graduated in 1969, and then played in the rough-and-tumble NBA for over 20 years. Look at his build. He was a very slender guy with damn good genetics. He didn't have any serious injuries during his career.

That is the only way you make it to 20 years in the NBA in any era. You have to be physically just a freak of nature. Some have that gift of longevity and most don't. Either way, it's a genetic gift.
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:43 am to
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These guys are in the ball handler’s pocket with a hand on their hip. Wtf happens when Lebron does a super human rip through on that as he faces the defender and then blows past them bc they’re 3 inches from him and now taking his shoulder to their throat as he drives?


LeBron is one of the best basketball players of all time. He would be good in any era.

A big difference is back in the day, he would gets past that guy he gets into the lane with a guy like Charles Oakley, Rick Mahorn, Bill Laimbeer, Charles Barkley or Patrick Ewing. His career would have likely been shortened by five years if he was tangling with those guys every night.

Ahh, I miss defense in the NBA.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:55 am to
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he would gets past that guy he gets into the lane with a guy like Charles Oakley, Rick Mahorn, Bill Laimbeer, Charles Barkley or Patrick Ewing. His career would have likely been shortened by five years if he was tangling with those guys every night.

Bill Laimbeer?

Dude would get physically destroyed by LeBron

Ewing wouldn't be the guy at the rim likely much either. They'd pick him until he was guarding the perimeter. Unless we're truly talking about the defensive schemes of the era, in which case health defense was almost illegal in the wrong would be one-on-one against a smaller less physically imposing perimeter defender almost exclusively
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:21 am to
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’m a big proponent of Bird being able to wreck fools in this era.

But he’d make Lebron look dumb?


Bird made every opponent look dumb. LeBron would be no different.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:43 am to
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Bird made every opponent look dumb. LeBron would be no different.



Do you seriously think that that slow-footed boy from Indiana, could defend LeBron James anywhere on the court? Boston isn't that stupid and that wouldn't be his job. Might as well ask Bird to lock down on MJ. Which they didn't

Some of you nutts sure have selective memory.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13712 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:44 am to
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These guys are in the ball handler’s pocket with a hand on their hip. Wtf happens when Lebron does a super human rip through on that as he faces the defender and then blows past them bc they’re 3 inches from him and now taking his shoulder to their throat as he drives?


usually The hand checking happened after the dribbler had a half step on the defender, and it allowed the defender to catch up/recover a better defensive position. It wasn’t usually a static hand on the hip, it was a quick check to the hip/torso help to recover
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 12:02 pm to
It’s amazing how much you freely admit how retarded you are. And even out your picture behind it.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35104 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 1:16 pm to
You could influence a guy a little with hand-checking, nudging him the way you wanted him to go.
They also eliminated the forearm in the back for post defense. That may have been a bigger deal than hand-checking.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 1:36 pm to
Chill out, you bitch.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 1:58 pm to
A way to make older nba players seem better
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 4:23 pm to
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He is way too soft to have played in the 80's/90's

From our resident north LA moron
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