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Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:34 pm to tigerbytail
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You don't ruin young men life over this.
The D.A. wouldn't have been the one ruining anybody's life. He would be doing his job. The young men would have been the one's ruining their lives by hanging out in a closed park with weed and a stolen gun.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:42 pm to earl keese
Disgusting. This DA doesnt give a shite about either one of these guys. Just not fair to treat people differently. Just wonder how much he was actually paid.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:35 pm to tigerbytail
quote:You're ignorant of illegal carry in presence of CDS. IIRC this incurs mandatory sentence 5yrs w/o alleviation by any means and was a pair of slam dunk Ws for DA.
Also Hottie had a legal gun on his lap. Not a crime. The crime was charging them with gun charges. The weed was less then a gram.
quote:Possibly the severe sentencing law had a little to do with it, but seems they've done a bang up job of ruining it themselves.
You don't ruin young men life over this.
We've all seen playing on Sundays isn't a cure all for sociopathic behavior and hopefully DA doesn't have regrets about this leniency in the future .
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:35 pm to tigerbytail
DP
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:42 pm to Darius David
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What's embarrassing about a human showing some compassion for two guys with bright futures who didn't physically harm anyone. This country could use some people in leadership position to show a lot more compassion, and common sense.
most young people have "bright futures." So you're saying if you're young and commit a crime, you shouldn't be punished unless the crime involves "physical harm"?!?!
Surely you can't believe that's a good way to run a civilzed society.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:42 pm to mrbroker
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:46 pm to tigerbytail
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Much a do bout nuttin Gun charges wouldn't of stuck. Not against the law to buy gun from a pawn shop. Also Hottie had a legal gun on his lap. Not a crime. The crime was charging them with gun charges. The weed was less then a gram. You don't ruin young men life over this. D A should be commended
not trying to be the grammar police, but damn, dude.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:23 pm to Jim Rockford
Nick the dick lore continues
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:29 pm to Chris Warner
This hasn't been discussed as far as I can see. Curious to know who else hangs out in this park at this time of night? And, if it's who I've heard, not male and female couples, could a possible armed robbery or mugging been thwarted by the police? Could these chaps been lurking in the dark to rob, roll, someone? Or buy more dope? We'll never prove it if so, but it does beg the question.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:07 pm to Darius David
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What's embarrassing about a human showing some compassion for two guys with bright futures who didn't physically harm anyone. This country could use some people in leadership position to show a lot more compassion, and common sense.
I ain't exactly square, but claiming this as a victimless crime is insanely dumb. If your litmus test for whether or not they should've been arrested is "they hadn't shot anybody," then your legal compass is irreperably broken.
If the DA had just lessened the charges to something that wouldn't have put them in prison for ten years, I would've been fine with it. My issue with this situation is that they committed felonies and were openly excused because they play football. That's fricked up. What the DA said, though, was not "they have bright futures" or "they're good kids who made dumb decisions;" he said that they spent their adolescences out in the heat. In other words, "they shouldn't be punished because they played football in HIGH SCHOOL."
I've known people who got arrested for having the same amount of weed when all they did was a rolling stop at a stop sign. Did they get their charges lessened, much less dropped? frick no. Did they play football in high school in Monroe, too? frick yes.
Jerry Jones should be fricking disbarred and audited by the IRS.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:56 pm to Darius David
quote:
What's embarrassing about a human showing some compassion for two guys with bright futures who didn't physically harm anyone. This country could use some people in leadership position to show a lot more compassion, and common sense.
HO
LEE
frick
The stupid...it hurts.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:42 pm to jtt1225
What I find amusing is that he didn't want to "ruin" their lives. Equating charging them with a crime they committed to ruining their lives. I wonder how many lives he's ruined throughout his career. Must be rough when your job is self-professed to be based solely on ruining peoples' lives.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:46 am to Dock Holiday
I know this is an extreme, but this OJ series has been running. None of these dudes will get as big as him, but we prob won't hear about any of their future crimes they may commit either.
People with celebrity status think they are above things. shite like this fosters that. Any one of us would have been treated differently.
People with celebrity status think they are above things. shite like this fosters that. Any one of us would have been treated differently.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 12:49 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:50 am to Jwodie
Cam didn't steal the gun he bought the gun at a pawn shop. Pawn shop owner is accountable for the weapon. Open carry of firearms are allowed in louisiana without a permit so Bootie didn't break no law. Why is this so hard to understand. The drug charge only thing that was legit.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:07 am to tigerbytail
Why were they sitting in a closed park at 3 AM in the morning with guns on their laps?
Bright futures indeed!
Bright futures indeed!
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:09 am to tigerbytail
well, I think this is more about consistency than anything.
does jones let off every kid that has similar or less charges, even if he didn't play football? bc the whole ruining lives thing kinda works for most if not all adolescents at their age, even if they didn't have a decently bright future ahead of them.
now if he had a history of this kind of leniency then it fits the bill for Jones, but if he usually has a hard stance on things like this, then you can assuredly see how this can be construed as favoritism towards an athlete.
then again, I don't know his history or even knew his name before this all came up, so I dunno.
does jones let off every kid that has similar or less charges, even if he didn't play football? bc the whole ruining lives thing kinda works for most if not all adolescents at their age, even if they didn't have a decently bright future ahead of them.
now if he had a history of this kind of leniency then it fits the bill for Jones, but if he usually has a hard stance on things like this, then you can assuredly see how this can be construed as favoritism towards an athlete.
then again, I don't know his history or even knew his name before this all came up, so I dunno.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:43 am to The Egg
quote:
well, I think this is more about consistency than anything.
does jones let off every kid that has similar or less charges, even if he didn't play football? bc the whole ruining lives thing kinda works for most if not all adolescents at their age, even if they didn't have a decently bright future ahead of them.
And they should look into everyone of his cases and see how many he has dropped. If it's rare he does this then he needs to be prosecuted too, if he's known as being lenient in these situations then I can see why he did it. Still do not understand why he did it though.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:57 am to vodkacop
quote:I dunno about prosecuted, but he does deserve extreme criticism if this goes completely against his record/stance and history on similar cases/incidents.
If it's rare he does this then he needs to be prosecuted too, if he's known as being lenient in these situations then I can see why he did it.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:32 am to The Egg
Your analysis is the correct one. As I posted in the initial arrest thread a couple of months ago , Jerry Jones has for decades given high school and college age persons charged with a first offense drug possession charge one more chance not to ruin or diminish their future employability with a drug conviction by placing them in a diversion program under which the charges would be dismissed if they got in no more trouble for a year. I predicted that would be the outcome in this case and it was.Thet got no favoritism because they were football players . They got the same treatment ordinary young persons have gotten for years . No payoffs involved.
Jerry tries to add a little humor into his remarks to the press sometimes. This one about the air conditioning didn't come out too funny and resulted in a lot of undeserved ridicule of him and his office but that unfortunate comment was not the reason he dismissed the charges .He dismissed them to give them one 2d chance to not ruin their lives just as he has done for countless ordinary everyday and unknown young people knowing that he would get blasted for dismissing charges against Bama players. That was courageous and demonstrated the consistency in law enforcement justice requires. Those young men didn't get off because they were well known nor were they treated more harshly because they were well known. The D.. A. knew he would catch heck in the court of public opinion for that consistency but he didn't let that deter him from doing the right thing.
Jerry tries to add a little humor into his remarks to the press sometimes. This one about the air conditioning didn't come out too funny and resulted in a lot of undeserved ridicule of him and his office but that unfortunate comment was not the reason he dismissed the charges .He dismissed them to give them one 2d chance to not ruin their lives just as he has done for countless ordinary everyday and unknown young people knowing that he would get blasted for dismissing charges against Bama players. That was courageous and demonstrated the consistency in law enforcement justice requires. Those young men didn't get off because they were well known nor were they treated more harshly because they were well known. The D.. A. knew he would catch heck in the court of public opinion for that consistency but he didn't let that deter him from doing the right thing.
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