re: Caleb Williams Deal with Beats Headphones Reportedly Worth $2.5M in 2022

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I'd say when they make more than their scholarship is worth.

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If you base it on that, you’re inherently giving a massive advantage to the schools with the highest cost of entry, and giving schools yet another reason to hike up admission costs with zero additional value to the product they offer

ETA and again you are still going to have players far exceeding that cap with off book money.

It’s funny to me that no one cares when they can pretend it doesn’t exist despite is clearly being there, but once you put it in the open everyone is clutching pearls

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If you base it on that, you’re inherently giving a massive advantage to the schools with the highest cost of entry, and giving schools yet another reason to hike up admission costs with zero additional value to the product they offer

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I'm not really wanting to cap it off as much as when they cross over the total value of their scholarship...they pay it back. Make whatever you want after that. I just find it hard to justify a dude who is now essentially a millionaire getting a fully funded free ride.

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imagine what a truly transcendent, legit celebrity college player like Reggie Bush

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At the very least, he would still be recognized as a Heisman trophy winner and USC wouldn't have been stripped of the 04 title.

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imagine what a truly transcendent, legit celebrity college player like Reggie Bush or Tim Tebow would get in today's NIL market

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Bush would clean up in the housing market.



Tebow?

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This. When did the free education become not enough

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Yeah I with you on that 1000000%. But, unfortunately no one these days cares about the tradeoff of getting a highly valued education for playing football. Hell, I barely heard that mentioned during this whole shitshow, which seemed crazy to me. At this point, I think if they make enough, they just need to forego the scholarships.

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I would rather shady bagmen, who can be (potentially)caught and the program be punished, than what it has become with the new era.

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the only teams being caught were the nobody programs that couldn’t leverage the NCAA to look away or slap them on the wrist

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And realize this will benefit teams like USC. But I would rather a more equalized playing field than what is manifesting presently.

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What on earth gave you the impression that there was an equalized playing field in the last 15-20 years?

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they pay it back. Make whatever you want after that. I just find it hard to justify a dude who is now essentially a millionaire getting a fully funded free ride.

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Are you asking the athletic department, the coaches, and every other stake holder involved to also forgo any profit and funnel it all directly back into the school?

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This argument is built on top of the myth that a college education is some huge ordeal in today’s society.

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I agree with that somewhat, but two things:

1. they're showcasing their talent to these potential employers (NIL deals, NFL) on the universities football fields.

2. No one else with $2.5 million in their bank account (or even parents bank account) with a HS GPA of 2.5 (without football) is getting a full scholarship.


ETA: I don't know this particular guys GPA, but we all know a lot of players aren't getting in on academic scholarships.

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1. they're showcasing their talent to these potential employers (NIL deals, NFL) on the universities football fields.

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And the universities get to keep all of the profits from this massive business. Sounds like a win win

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2. No one else with $2.5 million in their bank account (or even parents bank account) with a HS GPA of 2.5 (without football) is getting a full scholarship.

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No one else is signing multimillion dollar guaranteed contracts right out of college either, that’s the benefit of being one of the best athletes in the country at that sport. You have a skill that is hard to replicate and has a healthy amount of options competing for your services in a billion dollar industry

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They are employees of the university. They are not being given any handouts by the university. There was a tradeoff forever between athlete and school...we give you an education (regardless of current value), and you play football.

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go find a different job.

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You don’t see the irony here?


What other industry is compensation/value not changed when the demand for the industry changed? Of course back when it was all leather helmets, getting a college scholarship was a huge deal, both financially and socially. And those athletes mostly didn’t go on to play professionally. And the sport was mostly non profitable

Somewhere since then, the sport exploded into a massive billion dollar industry where everyone has been allowed to grab a piece of the pie, except the athletes, because….it makes you feel bad that some kid is making a lot of money? I just don’t get it.