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re: Bronny James- Making the leap year 2
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:43 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:43 am to Corinthians420
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He'd be an elite athlete on a basketball court or in a pool or on a golf course.
I disagree with what you call elite then.
What I said in my first comment in this thread was talking about elite athleticism referring to basketball players, not general athleticism.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:44 am to TeddyPadillac
You are referring to skill my friend
Athleticism doesn’t change
Athleticism doesn’t change
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:49 am to Corinthians420
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yeah, imagine it.
Don’t have to. I saw you do it lol
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:21 am to TackySweater
Bronny is in part athletic because lebron roided him the back half of HS (also why he had heart issues imo)
In any case elite athlete bronny is now 4-12 in summer league while they're managing his mins so he doesn't look as bad
In any case elite athlete bronny is now 4-12 in summer league while they're managing his mins so he doesn't look as bad
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:29 am to Enzos Tiny Pito
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Bronny is in part athletic because lebron roided him the back half of HS (also why he had heart issues imo)
So if that is your opinion surely you have done some research on it?
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While some studies have investigated a potential link between corticosteroids and congenital heart defects (CHDs), research findings are inconclusive and suggest no significant association. Some studies have even found no increased risk of CHDs with maternal corticosteroid use.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:32 am to lsupride87
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You are referring to skill my friend
Athleticism doesn’t change
I 100% get what you are saying.
Again, i didn't say he wasn't athletic.
I guess what i'm saying is when i say someone is an elite athlete, referring to basketball, i mean someone who is able to use that athleticism on the court in a meaningful way. Like I said, there are thousands of guys who can run fast and jump high, but not many can still use that athleticism on the basketball court.
You see Westbrook, Rose, Wall, and Fox get rebounds and fly down the court and finish at the rim with speed and jumping ability. That wasn't some finesse skill, they just are faster and can jump higher than most people, even though the combine results say others should be better or equal to them at that.
I'll say this again, two guys of equal measurement can both have 40" verticals yet look completely different on the court in regards to their jumping ability. Some people have to jump off two feet to reach their max vertical, some can do it off one foot, some can jump off either foot, and some aren't good leapers off one foot like they are off two. some people are quick to jump high while others need a running start to load up to jump high. Zion's second jump is unreal. It's not normal to be able to come down and immediately jump back up as high as he does. All of that makes a big difference on a basketball court. There's a lot more to jumping on a basketball court than what the vertical leap test says.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:51 am to Corinthians420
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Usain Bolt is an elite athlete no matter where you put him.
He'd be an elite athlete on a basketball court or in a pool or on a golf course.
Athleticism is athleticism.
Being a great athlete doesnt make you a great quarterback but it certainly helps.
Man this is some mental gymnastics to make yourself believe that Bronny is an elite athlete when it comes to basketball.
Off of a basketball court, Bronny has some good measurables. None of that means shite unless you can use it on the court.
Usain Bolt is one of my all time favorite athletes in all of sports, throughout history. Love that dude. He's an athlete. But he is not an athlete on the basketball court because odds are the guy probably barely knows how to dribble. You put him on the court with professionals and he'd get the ball stolen and bounce it off his foot and look like a retard.
I'm sure the lakers would be perfectly fine with him having a worse combine if it meant he could shoot the ball better, have any handles, or defend. Rose and Westbrook used their athleticism and physicality to be a force on the court and had highlight reels weekly. Both were MVP's. Bronny shows none of his athleticism on the court and looks like a lost kid when he's on an NBA court.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:04 am to Sterling Archer
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Is that not good?
Is 1-5 in 15 minutes good lol
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:08 am to iwyLSUiwy
So if the decathlon winner plays golf he all of a sudden isn’t an elite athlete? Some of y’all are dense as shite
Their is athleticism and then there is skill in sports
Their is athleticism and then there is skill in sports
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:09 am to Corinthians420
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Some people will ignore all the unbiased metrics and put all their faith in the "eyeball test" instead. Despite it being proven over and over again that human memory is imperfect.
Unbiased metrics, find the last college guard that was drafted who averaged less than 5 points per game in their last collegiate season.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:12 am to lsupride87
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So if the decathlon winner plays golf he all of a sudden isn’t an elite athlete? Some of y’all are dense as shite
It seems like yall are the ones being dense and can't figure out that there are athletes and athletes that actually can use it in the sport they play.
Who in the world gives a shite if you lines Rose, Westbrook, and Bronny up and Bronny beat them in a 40 yard dash? Nobody. Absolutely nobody. Because they aren't sprinters, they are basketball players
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:13 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:I understand that just fine
It seems like yall are the ones being dense and can't figure out that there are athletes and athletes that actually can use it in the sport they play.
It doesn’t make you any less athletic. There are plenty of better athletes that have less success in sports because they don’t have the skills. This isn’t exactly a ground breaking thought
Jordan Jefferson is far more athletic than tom Brady. Does that blow your mind?
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:29 am to TackySweater
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Is 1-5 in 15 minutes good lol
No of course not
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:37 am to lsupride87
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So if the decathlon winner plays golf he all of a sudden isn’t an elite athlete? Some of y’all are dense as shite
Their is athleticism and then there is skill in sports
This is on par with your helmet hits to the chest causes hearts to explode
Posted on 7/9/25 at 9:40 am to lsupride87
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Jordan Jefferson is far more athletic than tom Brady. Does that blow your mind?
Nobody is arguing that Tom Brady is a better athlete than Jordan Jefferson. That's clear. That'd be dumb. Also very dumb is arguing that Bronny freaking James is a better athlete than Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook (two of the freak basketball athletic guys to ever play) when it's clear when he steps on a basketball court he is not.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:20 am to iwyLSUiwy
It’s amazing that he can’t grasp what’s going on here.
Actually, no it’s not lol
Actually, no it’s not lol
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:39 am to iwyLSUiwy
Bronny is faster, stronger, can jump higher than rose and Westbrook
Yes, he is more athletic
They are more skilled basketball players. Very very simple concept
Yes, he is more athletic
They are more skilled basketball players. Very very simple concept
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:42 am to lsupride87
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Bronny is faster, stronger, can jump higher than rose and Westbrook
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
What’s funny?
Bronny James
Vertical 40.5"
Lane Agility 10.96s
3 quarter sprint 3.09s
Derrick Rose
Vertical 40.0"
Lane Agility 11.69s
3 quarter sprint 3.05s
Russell Westbrook
Vertical 36.5"
Lane Agility 10.98s
3 quarter sprint 3.08s
Bronny James
Vertical 40.5"
Lane Agility 10.96s
3 quarter sprint 3.09s
Derrick Rose
Vertical 40.0"
Lane Agility 11.69s
3 quarter sprint 3.05s
Russell Westbrook
Vertical 36.5"
Lane Agility 10.98s
3 quarter sprint 3.08s
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