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re: Bro. Martin may be forced to forfeit 5 games due to academic eligibility questions

Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:12 am to
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:12 am to
That would mean that every athlete at BM was not in compliance as they all had religion classes from the very beginning.

To the other poster, what would be Eddie Bonine's beef with the brothers? As far as I can tell, the schools talk a good ball game about being under the auspices of the brothers, but they seem to be simply faculty members. At least that's how it is at Brother Martin, one being a chaplain when my boys were there. Day-to-day administration and operations are entirely lay people.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:23 am to
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The LHSAA makes a visit to every LHSAA school to check on paperwork


I don’t think they have enough manpower to go to 400 schools a year…
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:44 am to
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Who randomly goes to a school like Brother Martin to check and certify grades


The same people that go to check on the litany of other stuff at member schools.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:57 am to
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Our Summer Credit Recovery program is not designed in the same manner as traditional Summer School programs,


I just want to know what exactly is a "credit recovery"?
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:17 am to
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Our Summer Credit Recovery program is not designed in the same manner as traditional Summer School programs, which can be less stringent academically in terms of replacing failing grades. Partially due to our long-standing interpretation of the academic eligibility rule, we adopted Credit Recovery over Summer School a number of years ago. If we used the traditional Summer School model combined with the LHSAA’s interpretation of the academic eligibility rule, both of these student-athletes would be academically eligible.


This paragraph is my favorite because it is the principal admitting that they screwed the kid over.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:27 am to
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It’s seems the glaring issue here is they have checked BMs paper work every year and have never said anything. BM changed nothing, hid nothing, and now randomly the LHSAA says they are doing something wrong? That doesn’t pass the smell test


2 issues with your assessment:

1) I went to a catholic HS in Nola and played HS football years ago and not a single player on our team was even close to being academically ineligible (Probably why we were average af). Basically I am saying that BM probably hasn't had many , if any, players close to ineligibility so their method of calculation probably wasn't ever truly tested.

2) Have you ever been audited? One auditor might overlook something but the next year, if a new auditor is assigned, they might see the same thing and have issue with it.

I worked as an auditor for a bit and I went to a company that just didn't record property donations on their books at all. They said "The house was free so it doesn't have a cost to put on the books." The previous auditor bought that but I knew that he needed to record the value of the house as in kind revenue and a depreciable asset. Point is, just because one person lets you slide doesn't mean that you are any less at fault if the next person finds your mistake.
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
693 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:39 am to
No it wouldn't. It would mean two elgible football players GPA wouldn't have met eligibility standards without including Religion. Take out Religion and their GPA fell below the threshold.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:44 am to
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They said "The house was free so it doesn't have a cost to put on the books." The previous auditor bought that but I knew that he needed to record the value of the house as in kind revenue and a depreciable asset.


Holy crap that previous auditor was an idiot.

I bet the client even got mad at you for not letting them slide by with that.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 12:05 pm to
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It’s seems the glaring issue here is they have checked BMs paper work every year and have never said anything. BM changed nothing, hid nothing, and now randomly the LHSAA says they are doing something wrong? That doesn’t pass the smell test




Wasnt BroMart accused of illegally recruiting players a couple years ago or was that another catholic school?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Wasnt BroMart accused of illegally recruiting players a couple years ago or was that another catholic school?




It was BM, they illegally showed up at a youth camp in Slidell
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 1:23 pm to
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I bet the client even got mad at you for not letting them slide by with that.


The client was furious. I wanted to make him pull all his property donations from the past but the partner above me made me back off and I was only allowed to correct the current year. I disagreed but at the end of the day its the partner putting his name on the report so if he wanted to risk it, that was on him.

He eventually told me that the previous auditor was his neighbor and he'd known him since the guy was in diapers which makes me think he could put his foot down and get his way with that kid not wanting to piss off his neighbor.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted by RedPop4
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 5:23 pm to
As I understood it, and my son had to go for math a few summers, it's like a fifth "quarter" or grading period. So if you do well, it gets averaged with the four quarters of the school year to get the credit for the year.

A student in credit recovery, even it pulls his average way up, can only be given a C for the year if he goes to credit recovery.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50522 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:01 pm to
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The client was furious. I wanted to make him pull all his property donations from the past but the partner above me made me back off and I was only allowed to correct the current year. I disagreed but at the end of the day its the partner putting his name on the report so if he wanted to risk it, that was on him.

He eventually told me that the previous auditor was his neighbor and he'd known him since the guy was in diapers which makes me think he could put his foot down and get his way with that kid not wanting to piss off his neighbor.


I have a client who gets pissed off about stuff like this every single year and says "previous auditor let us do it" all the time too. Like I'm just going to let things that fly in the face of accounting principles and may even be illegal just slide because you used to pay a moron to audit your books.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 11:02 pm
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1405 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:35 pm to
Admitting to years of cheating and not a single trophy to show for it. Brother Martin is even inept at cheating. At least Catholic cheated proficiently and had some trophies/titles stripped.

Bros of the Sacred Heart schools may be the most prolific cheating affiliation in LA high school athletics.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 6:02 am to
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It was BM, they illegally showed up at a youth camp in Slidell



That is not at all what happened. Not even close.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26610 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 8:35 am to
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That is not at all what happened. Not even close.


Correct... Bonis was at a scheduled football camp on the North Shore. All the other coaches were pissed that he was there and they felt like he was there to recruit players and they ratted him out.

BM had to pay a $1K fine...
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 8:36 am
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14409 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 9:17 am to
I wouldn't wish the last four or five years of Mark Bonis' life on anyone.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 9:39 am to
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wouldn't wish the last four or five years of Mark Bonis' life on anyone.




this and still a long tough road
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8975 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 9:59 am to
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I have a client who gets pissed off about stuff like this every single year and says "previous auditor let us do it" all the time too. Like I'm just going to let things that fly in the face of accounting principles and may even be illegal just slide because you used to pay a moron to audit your books.


These people blow my mind. Its like they think we make the rules up and have the authority to pick and choose who has to follow which rules. I have a buddy that I won't do taxes for anymore because of all the deductions he wants to (imo) falsely claim.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95344 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 10:05 am to
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2) Have you ever been audited? One auditor might overlook something but the next year, if a new auditor is assigned, they might see the same thing and have issue with it.
Im a CPA with over 10 years audit experience

This would be like a client hiring a CPA firm and they send out a manger to audit for 5 years, and that manager allows a certain revenue recognition for years without saying nothing, so the client plans everything, pays out bonuses, forecasts etc etc based on those accounting principles allowed by the CPA firm. Then the firm sends out a different manager and lets you know everything is fricked up and you are screwed the last 5 years

That’s on the CPA firm, AKA the LHSAA……
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 10:06 am
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