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re: Breaking news: Non-referee entered refs locker room and took game balls
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:22 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:22 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Ok. I guess I never really thought of a air needle as a temporary permeable membrane.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:22 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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He clearly needs a prostate exam.
He might have been fixing his hair too. Those NFL cheerleaders are no joke.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:23 pm to KosmoCramer
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Ok. I guess I never really thought of a air needle as a temporary permeable membrane.
It is in Boston. Red Stockings absorb PED unintentionally through similar scientific oddities.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:27 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Someone needs to fark looty with NFL game balls.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:30 pm to southernelite
I was starting to get annoyed with all this deflategate bullshite, but now the incessant coverage of this retardation is somewhat entertaining to me. I must need some drugs.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:20 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Are you familiar with the Ideal Gas Law?
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“Everything they said doesn’t seem impossible to me,” said James Bird, an assistant professor of mechanical engineering at Boston University. “Based on simple ideal-gas-law calculations, I would not be surprised if the Patriots are vindicated. . . . ”
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:26 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Can someone tell me the heat transfer coefficient of the the bladder and outer cover of a football? TIA
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:39 pm to ashy larry
Personally, to me, it only seems that the scientist have backed up the fact that a ball will lose pressure in colder temperatures. We all already know that.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:42 pm to OneMoreTime
Has the new theory out there that the referee never used an actual PSI gauge been discussed? A Boston radio show is now floating the idea that the referee just squeezed the ball and ok'ed it without ever checking its true PSI level. This seems completely plausible and also lends itself to the argument that you can't really tell a small inflation difference in pressure. With the other new info coming out about how the balls were much closer to 11.5 and not 10.5, this seems like the most likely scenario. Neither the Patriots or the refs used a pressure gauge and they both went by the feel of the ball.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:44 pm to OneRoundTKO
quote:If this is true then the refs need to be fired. "Hey bobby, you want to measure the cross bar before we build it. Nah Jerry, green bay wont care if we just eyeball the 10 feet"
Has the new theory out there that the referee never used an actual PSI gauge been discussed? A Boston radio show is now floating the idea that the referee just squeezed the ball and ok'ed it without ever checking its true PSI level. This seems completely plausible and also lends itself to the argument that you can't really tell a small inflation difference in pressure. With the other new info coming out about how the balls were much closer to 11.5 and not 10.5, this seems like the most likely scenario. Neither the Patriots or the refs used a pressure gauge and they both went by the feel of the ball.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:46 pm to OneRoundTKO
That is a plausible theory and one that I was wondering about in the early goings of this circus.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:47 pm to RollTide1987
quote:If that is what happened then the refs should be fired immediately. That would make the Patriots exonerated, but the NFL look even worse. I would say of course that is possible, but would not call it plausible by any means
That is a plausible theory and one that I was wondering about in the early goings of this circus
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:49 pm to lsupride87
Well it's not better or worse than the other theories floating around out there. The only evidence we have that something happened to those balls is a video clip of someone taking both the Colts and Patriots balls into the bathroom so he could take a piss before going out to the field.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:49 pm to lsupride87
I think this is easily the most realistic story to believe. If the NFL doesn't care enough about the footballs to have them in their own possession until the game actually starts, who is to say they care enough to exactly document the pressure? You see NBA and college basketball referee's checking the pressure of a basketball without a gauge and squeezing and bouncing the ball. I think the referee eyeballed the test and the NFL doesn't know how to explain that now.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:51 pm to OneRoundTKO
quote:Well according to the QBs they do actually measure the PSI. So these refs would have been out of the ordinary.
I think this is easily the most realistic story to believe. If the NFL doesn't care enough about the footballs to have them in their own possession until the game actually starts, who is to say they care enough to exactly document the pressure? You see NBA and college basketball referee's checking the pressure of a basketball without a gauge and squeezing and bouncing the ball. I think the referee eyeballed the test and the NFL doesn't know how to explain that now.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:54 pm to OneRoundTKO
In the unlikely event the balls weren't deflated how do you describe the Patriots ability to limit fumbles by 46% from 2007-Present?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:55 pm to JB Bama
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In the unlikely event the balls weren't deflated how do you describe the Patriots ability to limit fumbles by 46% from 2007-Present?
46% based on what?
Link that has verifiable data?
Total fumbles not fumbles lost?
K, thnx
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:00 pm to KosmoCramer
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Even looking at total fumbles, not just fumbles lost, the Patriots are the only outdoor team in the last 25 years to average 70 plays per fumble or better,
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“The league average from 2010 to 2014 was 50 plays per fumble. For indoor teams, the average was 55 plays per fumble. For outdoor teams, excluding the Patriots, the average was 46 plays per fumble. The Patriots averaged 73 plays per fumble, almost 60 percent more than outdoor teams and almost 50 percent more than the league average the past five years.”
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“Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3).”
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from 2001 to 2006, Brady averaged 9.8 fumbles per season. From 2007 to 2014, his fumbles per season decreased to 5.3.
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The Patriots have held the best plays per fumble rate since 2007
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Interestingly, one other thing changed the season prior to 2007: the rules
Whole lot of cowinky dinky happenstance
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:07 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:08 pm to CecilShortsHisPants
Did New England decide to stop underinflating balls in 2013?
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