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Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:45 pm to Paul Allen
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Is Sean MacVay a elite head coach?
He pales in comparison to Shawn Peyton
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:11 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Exactly. There was a lot of speculation he might be traded when they declared he was out against the Washington Football Team. Never actually thought it would happen.
I didn’t realize Von was set to be a FA. The Broncos got incredible value out of it in that case.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:42 pm to TTsTowel
So Denver is treating its roster like Basketball/Baseball/Hockey teams use their roster in trades?
Is that the vibe anyone else is getting? Somewhat interesting and good way to do business, I suppose.
Is that the vibe anyone else is getting? Somewhat interesting and good way to do business, I suppose.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 2:10 pm to sms151t
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So Denver is treating its roster like Basketball/Baseball/Hockey teams use their roster in trades?
Idk if there’s any real comparison in another sport to the level of “all in” the Rams are doing
Closest thing would be a basketball team in a big market, but even that only works because those teams know they will always be able to attract FAs and get the best players in the world to force their way to the team and also it works because of how small the value is for first round picks not in the top 10 for that league. NFL just doesn’t operate like that and it’s not really feasible to operate like that, even in today’s world
Historically, the only way to sustain success in the NFL is to draft well. So I think we all know where this road leads eventually, the key will be to see if they can capitalize on the very narrow window they have created for themselves. If you cash in a Super Bowl win or 2 then it’ll be considered great roster management, but if they fall short (even just a super bowl appearance) then you’re going to end up in a massive rebuild in quick order without much life raft to get you out
Posted on 11/1/21 at 2:27 pm to wildtigercat93
But you start trading pieces for draft capital and rentals like MLB NHL NBA do that could be a new way of doing business. Especially if you know you can not re-sign or the player won't re-sign.
So you win, play well another year, flip the mid guys who are coming up for draft pieces and start your rebuild and restructure your cap that way.
I think if you are going to play that game you will need to have some capital in the draft already, whoch I do not know if Denver does. I know Jacksonville and maybe Detroit do.
So you win, play well another year, flip the mid guys who are coming up for draft pieces and start your rebuild and restructure your cap that way.
I think if you are going to play that game you will need to have some capital in the draft already, whoch I do not know if Denver does. I know Jacksonville and maybe Detroit do.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/1/21 at 2:47 pm to LSUdude247
God I hope that the Rams miss the playoffs or lose early.
Between shite like this, the missing PI call against the Saints, and their owner about to frick over 31 other owners, I can’t imagine the Rams are very popular with anyone.
Between shite like this, the missing PI call against the Saints, and their owner about to frick over 31 other owners, I can’t imagine the Rams are very popular with anyone.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:01 pm to LSUdude247
This isn’t the Von Miller Of 2015 relax
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:10 pm to sms151t
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But you start trading pieces for draft capital and rentals like MLB NHL NBA do that could be a new way of doing business. Especially if you know you can not re-sign or the player won't re-sign.
All of those leagues make trades much easier to process. The NFL is not built the same way. There’s no way this model is actually sustainable. You’re trading cheap and long term labor for short term and expensive labor. That math just doesn’t add up unless you unrealistically crush it with your UDFAs and late FA additions. Not to mention all those other leagues are dealing with much smaller roster numbers so going all in on a fewer amount of players is less risky than it is in football where the injury rate is much higher and depth is much more important than Star power
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So you win, play well another year, flip the mid guys who are coming up for draft pieces and start your rebuild and restructure your cap that way.
One issue with no draft picks is you have no more “mid guys who are coming up”.You’re banking on other teams paying equal or more value to save you from your own decisions, when you are the only team making these kind of decisions.
Also again the NFL is structured to avoid this kind of team building as well because even if you are able to find a suitor to take these high priced veterans off your hands for good return value, you still have to pay the piper financially at some level and will have to foot that bill
And yes the Saints have proven that the salary cap is kind of fake and you can maneuver around it a lot, but the difference is that the only reason the Saints have been able to get away with that is that they have been extremely good at drafting the last 5 years and have replaced the outgoing talent with cheap elite young players acquired through the draft.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:13 pm to wildtigercat93
New CBA is coming up and expansion of rosters and practice squads I think make for some interesting decisions and trades. Guess we will see how it works out.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:14 pm to sms151t
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New CBA is coming up and expansion of rosters and practice squads I think make for some interesting decisions and trades
That makes this way to team building harder, not easier
Expansion of rosters and practice squads lowers the amount of available cheap talent for the Rams to pull from
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:16 pm to wildtigercat93
No not really because they will be allowed to not be limited in times bringing guys up. But we will see. Plus now you can hide vets on Px squad where as before you could not. Basically they could use options like baseball does
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:22 pm to sms151t
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No not really because they will be allowed to not be limited in times bringing guys up. But we will see. Plus now you can hide vets on Px squad where as before you could not.
You can’t really hide those vets. They are essentially free agents when they are on the practice squad.
So the Rams will be replacing their talent with UDFAs and scrubs from other teams PS while the other teams will be stockpiling cheap elite talent….I can tell you the only way that path leads
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Basically they could use options like baseball does
Baseball relies almost exclusively on cheap draft labor and has zero salary cap and like 10 developmental leagues so it’s nothing like baseball
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:24 pm to LSUdude247
I have no idea what to think of this. On one hand, Von is still a legitimate piece if healthy. On the other, the rams only have like a 5th and 7th round pick in this draft
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:27 pm to WestCoastAg
This is where management needs to be thinking at least medium-term, like, we are going to be a dumpster fire in five years. But, nope, everybody must be on the same page to go all in now.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:31 pm to Bunk Moreland
I’m guessing that ownership is thinking “frick it, we better win now”.
Mainly because they are about to have 31 other teams plus Goodell after their asses for putting them on the hook for a massive settlement to St Louis.
Mainly because they are about to have 31 other teams plus Goodell after their asses for putting them on the hook for a massive settlement to St Louis.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:31 pm to WestCoastAg
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I have no idea what to think of this. On one hand, Von is still a legitimate piece if healthy. On the other, the rams only have like a 5th and 7th round pick in this draft
He better be elite this year or this is a strange risk without some type of affordable extension
If he isn’t a complete difference maker this season (and more importantly; if they don’t win the Super Bowl) the Rams get to decide whether they want to let him walk and take the L on the compensation, or pay him likely above what he should be paid at this stage in his career to try to “protect” the investment you made (or dig the hole deeper depending on how you look at it)
Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:39 pm to LSUdude247
They going all in this year for next decade.
They dont win it all this year, they will be fricked. And the next decade will look like the last decade in st.louis, except they will be actually trying to win in LA.
They dont win it all this year, they will be fricked. And the next decade will look like the last decade in st.louis, except they will be actually trying to win in LA.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:13 pm to LSUdude247
How the frick do the trashy Rams have any picks left to trade let alone for a talent like Miller even in his later years? They turn and burn picks like crazy.
. What a trash organization. Clean house from Fangio on up
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As part of the trade, the Broncos are paying $9 million of Von Miller’s remaining $9.7 million salary, per sources.
. What a trash organization. Clean house from Fangio on up
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:34 pm to PhineasFreakaZoid
Seattle does this same thing
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