re: Braves trade Yunel Escobar to Jays

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but Yunel's stock can't get any lower than it is right now, which means we sold low.

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please. he's 27. let's say we hypothetically keep him. he continues to not hit, finishes the year in the .230-.240 range with all other stats about where they are.

who wants him then? going into next year he's a 28 year old coming off the worst year of his career that has attitude problems.

we may not have dealt him at optimum time/price, but his value still could have plummeted even lower.

I'm failing to see how this is "selling low" honestly. We essentially got 3 players, a solid big leaguer, and two plus prospects, for a malcontented middle-aged SS mired in the worst year of his career... that no one wanted on the team.

I'm not saying Alex Gonzalez is a better player than Escobar. I'm saying that Alex Gonzalez is a better player for this team than Escobar.

Of course it would have been nice to use him to get a better hitter (say, Josh Willingham), but then we'd have no SS, unless you really want to risk sticking Infante there and enduring his shitacular defense.

So I see it as we got a serviceable vet and two guys with upside in exchange for a guy who has a) Likely peaked last year and b) Wasn't liked and c) a dead weight pitcher.

bump

again.. short stop was not the issue.. outfield is.. especially centerfield.. but now short stop will be an issue for the future.. as well as first base.. as well as 3rd base.. thank God for Prado.. the rest of the infield is fricked..

i hate the trade.. but i'm sure gonzalez will be adequate for the remainder of the season.. but the whole escobar was hurting the team is beyond me.. the team was in first place.. he was turning it around since his injury.. i am just not a believer in making moves to be making moves..

We'll keep tabs of who's for and against and bump this way down the line

against the trade:

Swampdonks
Ronnie Mex
SouljaBreaux

for:

everyone else

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but the whole escobar was hurting the team is beyond me.. the team was in first place.. he was turning it around since his injury.. i am just not a believer in making moves to be making moves..

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The move was made because Yunel was universally disliked in the clubhouse. There were a lot of reports that Glaus was close to taking a swing at him after Yunel made that lazy throw and nearly got Troy's arm broken. Bobby never liked him because he was lazy and didn't play hard. The pitchers were getting fed up with his lapses of concentration on defense. He was basically Manny Ramirez but without the talent to justify putting up with the bullshite.

He had 2 extra base hits playing every day in the last month before being traded.

i am forever grateful kotchman is gone.. now that is a dude who would alienate himself.

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link?

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It was on the radio in Atlanta. They said that after that game Glaus was yelling at him in the locker room and had to be restrained.

FWIW, I'd bet on Escobar being the most valuable "WAR" player in the deal when all is said and done. But I have a feeling Gonzalez will be serviceable this year. I'd also bet that if in 5 years you combine Salcedo and Collins WAR that it will be higher than Escobar and Jo Jo.

yeah jo-jo definitely another guy i am glad to see gone. that's a plus.