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re: Brady vs. Manning
Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:26 pm to SPEEDY
Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:26 pm to SPEEDY
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Not since he has been the Pats head coach
Sure about that?
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In all, Belichick has gone 13-6 (.684) in 19 games without Brady at quarterback for the Patriots. To put that in context, no other team in the league besides Belichick's Patriots has posted a winning percentage higher than .684 since Belichick and Brady joined forces in 2000.
So he's 13-6 without Brady at quarterback for the Patriots despite the fact he went 5-11 in 2000. Brilliant work.
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 6:28 pm
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:35 pm to SPEEDY
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Brady basically missed almost the entire 2008 season, (he threw a total of 11 passes). The 5 previous years, the Pat averaged 13 wins a year. In 2008, they won 11, so just a 2 game drop off without Brady behind center
They went from 18-1 in 2007 with Brady to 11-5 without Brady. That's a drop off of seven wins.
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Peyton missed the entire 2011 season. In the 5 previous seasons, the Colts averaged 12 wins a season. In 2011, the Colts only won 2 games, 10 less than their average.
The Colts went 10-7 in 2010 with Peyton Manning and 2-14 in 2011 without Peyton Manning. That's a drop off of eight wins.
The drops are comparable. The teams are not. The 2007 New England Patriots were only a minute or so away from becoming the first team since the '72 Dolphins to finish the season with a perfect record. They returned all but two of their starters from the year before in 2008.
Brady immediately goes out and the Patriots go from one of the greatest teams to ever play the game to a team that doesn't even make the playoffs the following year.
On the other hand, the 2011 Colts were DELIBERATELY trying to tank their season to get Andrew Luck at #1. They succeeded in doing that and go from 2-14 in 2011 to 11-5 and a playoff berth in 2012. Was Andrew Luck THAT good or were the Colts just trying their best to suck THAT bad in 2011?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:35 pm to lsupride87
But Kurt Warner didn’t get forgotten. That’s my point and Tom Brady’s a little better than Kurt Warner
You made my point for me Kurt is a prime example if your good enough eventually your gonna get your shot. Idc where Tom Brady went he would’ve got his shot. Whether it was because of an injury like in real life or showing out in pre season eventually he would’ve been noticed
You made my point for me Kurt is a prime example if your good enough eventually your gonna get your shot. Idc where Tom Brady went he would’ve got his shot. Whether it was because of an injury like in real life or showing out in pre season eventually he would’ve been noticed
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 7/31/19 at 6:51 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
BOOM
But then you're talking to someone who didn't know the the current Browns aren't the same franchise.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:00 pm to Korin
It’s reallt weird how bad people on this board want Brady to be average
Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:04 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
And they aren't even arguing for Brees either. That's what's so weird.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 8:13 pm to Korin
Korin and hawgs are a braintrust of simplicity when they join forces
Posted on 7/31/19 at 8:59 pm to Globetrotter747
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If you were an NFL GM, who would you take as rookie to play QB for your team for 15 years?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:33 pm to Globetrotter747
Manning is so much better than Brady on every level.
Manning literally redefined the QB position.
Manning literally redefined the QB position.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 5:08 am to Globetrotter747
Brady was a much better fit for Belichick. Not even close. Manning would have wanted things done HIS way.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 5:10 am to SmallyBiggs
quote:Not at the "winning Super Bowls" level.
Manning is so much better than Brady on every level.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 5:25 am
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:10 am to Globetrotter747
TB12, playing with a chip on your shoulder and the burden of proving something produces some incredible feats by mere men
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:23 am to lsupride87
quote:says the guy who thinks beady would be bagging groceries if not for the patriots based purely on his own fantasy
in and hawgs are a braintrust of simplicity when they join forces
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:37 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:You have your head so far up your arse when it comes to Brady
says the guy who thinks beady would be bagging groceries if not for the patriots based purely on his own fantasy
The guy is possibly the greatest QB of all time. Nobody is denying that
But as a low draft pick his margin for error was slim, and being in the right spot was key for him to get time to develop.
Playing on a great team, brady had passer rating of under 87 his first 3 years......If he is on a shite organization or a shite team his career arch could be very different. That doesnt take away though from what he has accomplished
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:22 am to lsupride87
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Playing on a great team, brady had passer rating of under 87 his first 3 years......If he is on a shite organization or a shite team his career arch could be very different. That doesnt take away though from what he has accomplished
If anyone thinks Brady becomes Brady with any organization then why wasn’t he a superstar in college? It’s not like he went to some podunk FCS and wasn’t a big time program that was in a bad stretch with lousy coaches like his school has been since his coach was forced out
He was the backup on a NC team and Michigan was cranking out NFL QB back then, going back to Harbaugh in the 80s. Did he not have a “work ethic” or “burning desire” in college?
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 9:27 am
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:27 am to SmallyBiggs
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Manning is so much better than Brady on every level.
at choking? He's the reason Brees has a Super Bowl. He barely has a winning record in the playoffs. Get the hell out of here.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:29 am to TT9
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He barely has a winning record in the playoffs. Get the hell out of here.
He does have a winning record against Brady in the playoffs.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:30 am to H-Town Tiger
How bout overall vs. Brady?
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:36 am to TT9
I thought regular season didn’t matter 
Also you’re the one who mentioned playoff record but I’m sure a Bama fan is unbiased when talking about Manning
Also you’re the one who mentioned playoff record but I’m sure a Bama fan is unbiased when talking about Manning
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 9:40 am
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