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re: Boxing vs. MMA

Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:11 am to
Posted by enod02
Member since Apr 2010
91 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:11 am to
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which is better and why?

go.


Never understood the point of this debate. It doesn't have to be an either/or thing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466889 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:12 am to
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Solo

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Boxing is an art. MMA is a blood sport.


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LSUandAU

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Also, boxing takes endurance, strength, speed, skill, precision and is truly a science if you have ever done it. MMA is entertaining at times, but is really nothing more than a street fight where elbows, knees, almost anything goes.


i can understand preferring the aesthetics of boxing to MMA, but comments like these are ignorant and have no place in this discussion. both are "science" and "art" and neither are outright brawls

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I will take a 12 rouund prizefight, at the high level, any day over what UCF aired last week...that was a joke!

did you watch the last pacquiao fight? or just about all top HW boxing matches?

i mean if you prefer tons of jabs, little contact, and winning on points for jabs, that is your opinion. i'm not going to say it is wrong. but i don't see how you can claim the last pacquiao fight was entertaining
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466889 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:13 am to
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I am talking about money made by fighting


you can't compare the 2

MMA is run by organizations

Boxing is a bunch of ind. contractors
Posted by MStreetTiger
Dallas
Member since Dec 2007
12403 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:14 am to
Both sports rely too much on "hype" outside of the ring. Both are sold as such.

Posted by LSUgrasshopper
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:31 am to
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De la hoya is worth more than Dana white and mayweather is valued the same as white.


So you're saying the two richest guys in boxing are worth the same as the guy with the 10% stake in UFC? All Dana has is 10 %.

I'm pretty sure Oscar has a much bigger chunk of Golden Boy.

Don king is worth 290 mil.

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Check out forbes magazine


got a link?
Posted by LSUgrasshopper
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:54 am to
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It's not by coincidence that lesnar is the ufc's largest ppv draw


He helps the draw, but he is not the only reason. UFC had a stacked card including the Bisping Hendo fight of the two guys that millions of people watched each week on the reality show on cable tv. (how's the contender doing these days?)

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Because their numbers are down


no I should you data saying they're still growing. They aren't where they want to be, but not down and not nearly as "down" as boxing. UFC 111 did 770K buys. That's more than the Pac Clottey fight.

So boxing best draw loses to the UFC...And Brock wasn't on the card.

Oh, why won't a boxing fan touch the issue of the two sports on tv right now? Or the pay for lets' say the 10 biggest earning fighter in each sport? Or the 50th ect.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12807 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 9:10 am to
I grew up boxing and I would still rather watch MMA
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12807 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 9:11 am to
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you can't compare the 2

MMA is run by organizations

Boxing is a bunch of ind. contractors


damn...for ONCE I finally agree with SFP
Posted by aibo synthetic
into bolivian
Member since Nov 2007
3412 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 10:38 am to
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Again, how does the fact that the average UFC guy can kick the average boxer's arse in a street fight have anything to do w/ which of the two sports is more entertaining to fans?


I already said it has nothing to do with anything. Then I changed my mind and said the different styles competing is why there is a ufc. Now I am being intentionally ambiguous. What about this do you not get?

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Yes, really.


oh, ok. Because it really isn't.

It's like wondering whether MLB outfielders or NFL safeties are faster on average.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13593 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 10:41 am to

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It's like wondering whether MLB outfielders or NFL safeties are faster on average.
No, it's not. Speed is actually an important part of how well they are able to do their jobs.

Ability to win a street fight is not a factor in how well a boxer does his job.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27591 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 10:43 am to
Boxing in 1980-1995.

Boxing if they get their shite straight is better. BUT they never will so MMA for me.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37139 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 10:59 am to
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This is one reason boxing is better...less absurd and lucky fluke outcomes! Also, boxing takes endurance, strength, speed, skill, precision and is truly a science if you have ever done it. MMA is entertaining at times, but is really nothing more than a street fight where elbows, knees, almost anything goes. Boring is watching two guys lie on the floor wrestling around fighting for position for 2-3 minutes.



Judging in boxing is probably much worse so I dunno for starters about the fluky decisions. Regarding the fluky outcome possibility? sure can happen in MMA but the big KO out of the blue can happen in either sport and is both a positive and a negative since it adds to the viewer interest. Anyway, 9 times out of 10 the fighter who is better wins... the 1 time out of 10 he does not is a puncher's chance and adds to the entertainment value

When I first started watching MMA I thought the same thing about the guys wrestling around on teh ground but the more I have watched the more I have appreciated the strategy involved... the holds etc... It's kinda amazing
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30068 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 11:02 am to
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I think this completely depends on how they would fight...chuck liddell or any of the other so called "great punchers" in MMA aren't beating any elite boxers in stand up



Chuck would revert to being a wrestler pretty quickly if you put him in with a boxer, as a boxer would have zero ground game.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12807 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 11:05 am to
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Boxing is an art.

MMA is a blood sport.


I boxed all my life and that is an absurd statement. I respect all forms of the discipline of fighting.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12807 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 11:07 am to
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MMA is entertaining at times, but is really nothing more than a street fight where elbows, knees, almost anything goes.


we MMA fans have got to do a better job at educating the masses of ignorant statements like this
Posted by LSUgrasshopper
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 11:13 am to
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I think this completely depends on how they would fight...chuck liddell or any of the other so called "great punchers" in MMA aren't beating any elite boxers in stand up


Chuck would revert to being a wrestler pretty quickly if you put him in with a boxer, as a boxer would have zero ground game.


Exhibit A

Chris Lytle,

13-1-1 as a boxer. Indiana state champ (IBA)with multiple title defenses.

In MMA

38-17-5

Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15383 posts
Posted on 4/16/10 at 11:36 am to
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