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re: Bosa rejects latest offer from Chargers, we are at an impasse

Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:27 pm to
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So does Bosa and his agent.
How?

The way I understand it is that they are asking for what every other 3rd overall pick has received since the new CBA.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:28 pm to
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ESPN just reported they offered him 14 M of 17 guaranteed and rest was to be paid through 5 years (550k/year)


Rookie contracts are 4 years with a 5th year option, so that would violate the cba

I don't think you understand the difference between guaranteed, signing bonus, etc.

Guaranteed money was never the issue here. The amount was never the issue. The offset and the delayed signing bonus are the issues.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 7:29 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:29 pm to
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So does Bosa and his agent.



So what other team compares? When you've had trouble with almost every first round pick for the last 16 years I think it is more about the team than the kids they pick.

The list of their holdouts compared to other teams is hard to look past.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:29 pm to
Chargers asking for both is a bit much, like they really couldn't meet him on one or the other clause?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:29 pm to
I know what it is. If he gets released or option not picked up then he wouldn't get last 550.

This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 7:30 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:31 pm to
Did ESPN say "fully guaranteed" or just "guaranteed"? Because there is a difference.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:32 pm to
Part of Bosa's camp's response

quote:

We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.


There's really no telling who is telling the truth here, but the Chargers history leads me to believe there is some truth to this. They probably purposely held off responding so they could back him into a corner and try to pressure him into a contract through the media.

Chargers
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:32 pm to
Right now Bosa is looking like a jackass he has ex Chargers, current Chargers, former players railing him.

I don't blame him for trying to get the most he can get, but now he's going to lose.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:33 pm to
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Right now Bosa is looking like a jackass
He's asking for what every other third overall pick has gotten since the new CBA. How do you see that as him looking like a jackass?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:36 pm to
Nobody knows what the real hang up is because are you sure what he is asking for is what the others have gotten? His agent said they are, but if that's true the former players and current ones wouldn't be all over him.

The Chargers go out in front of this and controlled the story today.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 7:38 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:36 pm to
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Right now Bosa is looking like a jackass he has ex Chargers, current Chargers, former players railing him.




I just watched Schefter on ESPN put the blame on the Chargers.

Hell, they alienated the best player on their team in Weedle. Complete joke of an organization that lacks professionalism and decided to set their own precedence.

Just another way to further alienate the SD fanbase that they don't want to return to anyways.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37188 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:37 pm to
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Right now Bosa is looking like a jackass he has ex Chargers, current Chargers, former players railing him.

I don't blame him for trying to get the most he can get, but now he's going to lose.




Did you listen to Russilo today? He had players telling him they would sit out the year if the Chargers did that to them as a top five pick.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:38 pm to
because are you sure what he is asking for is what the others have gotten?

Yes

quote:

The Chargers go out in front of this and controlled the story today.


The Chargers publicly embarrassed themselves once again today. Even their method of releasing their statement was pathetic.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:38 pm to
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Nobody knows what the real hang up is because are you sure what he is asking for is what the others have gotten?
quote:

His agent said they are
Has the team disputed it?
quote:

The Chargers go out in front of this and controlled the story today.
Sheep believe the first thing they hear.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 7:39 pm
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:39 pm to
The players calling him out are those that didn't get drafted after the 2011 CBA. Their opinion holds minimal weight.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:39 pm to
No I didn't. what players? Because like I said people like LT and his current team mates have crushed him.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:39 pm to
Im talking about the upfront bonus
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:41 pm to
I understand what he's trying to do, but he's going to be the loser in this.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:41 pm to
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You calling anyone a tard


Im tard cause Bosa is lame?

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:42 pm to
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Im talking about the upfront bonus

If the money is truly guaranteed, it goes into an escrow actually....
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