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re: Bosa rejects latest offer from Chargers, we are at an impasse
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:32 pm to DelU249
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:32 pm to DelU249
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One is tempted to say the Chargers have had trouble signing every significant first round pick in their recent history. That's probably an exaggeration but Bosa can add his name to a list that includes Tomlinson, Q Jammer, Eli Manning,
Yes, they will likely win in their stupid pissing match with Bosa one way or another. They will cost him some money, but this does affect how people look at the organization and no reasonable player should want to be drafted by them - and no reasonable fanbase should want their city to bring in a Chargers team with that management or ownership.
Big picture, the Chargers are run by short-sighted assholes.
One is tempted to say the Chargers have had trouble signing every significant first round pick in their recent history. That's probably an exaggeration but Bosa can add his name to a list that includes Tomlinson, Q Jammer, Eli Manning,
Yes, they will likely win in their stupid pissing match with Bosa one way or another. They will cost him some money, but this does affect how people look at the organization and no reasonable player should want to be drafted by them - and no reasonable fanbase should want their city to bring in a Chargers team with that management or ownership.
Big picture, the Chargers are run by short-sighted assholes.
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:36 pm to molsusports
quote:for me the full potential of that loss wouldn't be worth not signing because I want my money in December rather than march...I'm just going off what people are saying here, i'm not positive that's the case...the offset language could change my view on that.
They will cost him some money
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:38 pm to molsusports
Why did you include Eli? Eli never held out from the Chargers, he forced a trade, but did not hold out. The Chargers made out like Bandits on that one.
They got Rivers, Kaeding, Merriman, and Roman Oben for Eli.
They got Rivers, Kaeding, Merriman, and Roman Oben for Eli.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:38 pm to molsusports
quote:could be true...they ran brees off and fired marty otherwise they're champs in 2006, but that's fan shite, not money money money
the Chargers are run by short-sighted assholes.
it probably is true, it just doesn't change how I would look at a negotiation, the bargaining power and leverage...i'd rather be the coach or front office guy who wasted a pick than the player who lost the fortune.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:39 pm to Rickety Cricket
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The ridiculous thing is that the guaranteed money is just that, GUARANTEED MONEY. Whether you get it tomorrow or a few months from now, they can't back out of it.
Tell that to Trent Richardson & Rolando McClain. They combined to lose out on over $6 million in "GUARANTEED MONEY"
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:42 pm to sms151t
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Why did you include Eli? Eli never held out from the Chargers, he forced a trade, but did not hold out.
He said he would not sign with that organization because they are poorly run - mostly because he had taken note of how poorly they treated their recent picks like Jammer and Tomlinson.
Eli would have held out if they hadn't agreed to trade him.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:42 pm to sms151t
quote:because they drafted him when he said not to and I don't blame them for that
he forced a trade, but did not hold out
draft him and sell him, which is what they did. the reasoning is sound. eli thought NY was better organization and better place to be, his reasoning was sound
now the shite with brees and marty...reasoning may have been sound, but
I think they win a few super bowls if they chose brees even if they had every reason to keep rivers and rivers has been a good qb. 
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:43 pm to sms151t
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Why did you include Eli?
Yeah he shouldnt be on that list but Rivers held out
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:44 pm to DelU249
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i'd rather be the coach or front office guy who wasted a pick than the player who lost the fortune.
reduced a fortune - for a player
but eventually lose your white collar job (that pays less) if you are the coach or front office guy.
assuming i don't squander the money or get a serious injury I'd actually rather be the player.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:45 pm to molsusports
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He said he would not sign with that organization because they are poorly run
it doesn't matter why he said it, he should do what he feels is in his interest, but has anyone here ever heard eli speak? he's retarded. I doubt he had the brain power to make a decision based upon that type of reasoning. $$$$$$$, endorsement $$$$$...that's just as good of a reason as any too, so more power to him.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:46 pm to sms151t
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Eli never held out from the Chargers, he forced a trade, but did not hold out. The Chargers made out like Bandits on that one.
They got Rivers, Kaeding, Merriman, and Roman Oben for Eli.
All the Giants ended up with was
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:47 pm to molsusports
quote:the full potential is no fortune, so i'd rather be the front office guy or the team (as an individual)
reduced a fortune - for a player
quote:they get second chances...look at lane kiffin or scott pioli. the latter made a career out of bringing bill belichick his coffee
but eventually lose your white collar job (that pays less) if you are the coach or front office guy.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:48 pm to DelU249
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he should do what he feels is in his interest,
which clearly is to get the frick away from the chargers
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has anyone here ever heard eli speak? he's retarded.
has anyone ever been impressed by a player for how smart they sound? jesus, we're talking about guys who bang their brains around for money.
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I doubt he had the brain power to make a decision based upon that type of reasoning.
clearly you were wrong, and clearly eli used good judgment in insisting on the trade.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:49 pm to TigerintheNO
some deals are good for both sides...those are called good deals
no doubt who had the betterererer deal
no doubt who had the betterererer deal
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:52 pm to molsusports
the point is neither side did anything wrong and they both got what they wanted...if the chargers passed on eli and NY got him, then shablagoo, they didn't get anything for their embarrassment at being told by the number one pick not to draft him i'm not seeing how they did something stupid there...everyone got what they wanted, and the chargers got more picks than they would have if they said "ok, we'll draft someone else"
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:53 pm to DelU249
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no doubt who had the betterererer deal
With the Chargers quarterbacks?
I'd rank the franchise satisfaction as:
1) Giants
2) Saints
3) Chargers
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:13 pm to molsusports
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With the Chargers quarterbacks? I'd rank the franchise satisfaction as: 1) Giants 2) Saints 3) Chargers
Don't want to sound like a homer, but I'd put the Saints #1 because of their history prior to Brees.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:23 pm to LSUlefty
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Don't want to sound like a homer, but I'd put the Saints #1 because of their history prior to Brees.
Saints are #1 by a country mile. If Brees didn't end up in New Orleans, that team would be playing in San Antonio right now.
Who's not to say that the Giants wouldn't have won those two Super Bowls with Philip Rivers at quarterback? Wasn't it the general consensus a few years ago that Rivers was the best quarterback in the NFL not to have a Super Bowl win? (I imagine Cam Newton is now the champ.)
Posted on 8/24/16 at 6:29 pm to sicboy
frick Bosa bust
Posted on 8/24/16 at 6:32 pm to timbo
ESPN just reported they offered him 14 M of 17 guaranteed and rest was to be paid through 5 years (550k/year)
If this is true Bosa comes across looking bad.
If this is true Bosa comes across looking bad.
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