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re: Bosa rejects latest offer from Chargers, we are at an impasse
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:40 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:40 pm to TigerBait1127
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Seems reasonable to me
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:40 pm to SDVTiger
And the Chargers know top 5 picks since the CBA in 2011 are generally getting either the offset language removed or an upfront signing bonus. If they don't want to deal with those clauses, they shouldn't field a shitty football team. And trying to nickel and dime a top 3 draft pick with clauses that other highly drafted players generally don't get won't fix your shitty football team problem.
Congrats on having one of the most incompetent FO in the NFL.
Congrats on having one of the most incompetent FO in the NFL.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:40 pm to DelU249
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All I know is what date it is, and how desperate these front office guys want to win (because if they don't, they're out of work) and then they publicly pulled the offer...yikes.
I'm not sure that is true for the Chargers right now
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:42 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:if this is a no budge issue for both sides, then neither is to blame...or both depending on how you look at it
Seems reasonable to me
but who has the leverage here? the chargers. only the final result will tell us if this kid's agent let him down.
if the chargers cave, brilliant.
if he sits and re-enters...get a new agent.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:45 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:no one has job security in the NFL...i'm open to the idea that this is a matt millen type deal where they have that kind of pull and/or the front office is that incompetent, but look at your calendar, think about job security in the NFL (how long it lasts and what it is based on) and revisit that statement
I'm not sure that is true for the Chargers right now
perhaps you're right, but more often than not, that statement would be dead wrong.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:45 pm to KillerNut9
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KillerNut9
Nice melt over Bosa being a pussy
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:45 pm to DelU249
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if this is a no budge issue for both sides, then neither is to blame.
Bosa has offered to let the chargers pick one or the other like every player at his slot. Chargers are trying to change the way this is done.
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but who has the leverage here? the chargers
If they are willing to throw away the #3 pick, sure. That is a pretty huge hit, especially with the current rookie salary structure with the 5th year option
I have no idea what his financial situation is. At this point, I'm not sure caving in is his best move
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:47 pm to DelU249
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no one has job security in the NFL...i'm open to the idea that this is a matt millen type deal where they have that kind of pull and/or the front office is that incompetent, but look at your calendar, think about job security in the NFL (how long it lasts and what it is based on) and revisit that statement
perhaps you're right, but more often than not, that statement would be dead wrong.
I agree more often than not. The Chargers aren't currently worried about their long term success in San Diego
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:48 pm to KillerNut9
quote:well flushing millions down the drain over it is also stupid
And trying to nickel and dime a top 3 draft pick with clauses that other highly drafted players generally don't get won't fix your shitty football team problem.
one thing is for sure, there is no win win situation left
if he sits, they're both losers only he's the bigger loser. if he takes less, he's the loser and they're the winner. If the chargers cave they're the loser and he's the winner. august 24th though means they both can't be winners.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:48 pm to SDVTiger
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SDVTiger
why is that funny?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:50 pm to TigerBait1127
other than jeff fisher (twice actually), jobs relocate, but their current occupants do not
again, i'm largely ignorant and this is the only nfl news I've heard, but it's that outrageous of a situation given the date.
just looking at things from an abstract point of view. I don't want to know anything else. the nfl sucks.
again, i'm largely ignorant and this is the only nfl news I've heard, but it's that outrageous of a situation given the date.
just looking at things from an abstract point of view. I don't want to know anything else. the nfl sucks.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:52 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:who would you feel worse for, the team that didn't sign their number 1 pick or the number 1 pick who lost a set for life type of payday?
If they are willing to throw away the #3 pick, sure
easy one for me. Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:53 pm to DelU249
Just read the actual screenshot the Chargers put out 
What a pathetic organization.
Of course he is being offered more money than any charger draft pick since 2011. It is the highest draft pick they've had
What a pathetic organization.
Of course he is being offered more money than any charger draft pick since 2011. It is the highest draft pick they've had
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:55 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:precedent just gives people at the table a starting point
. Chargers are trying to change the way this is done.
all that matters are the issues, priorities and desires of the people at the table. I don't blame sides unless one side is acting in bad faith, and this doesn't sound like a large enough sticking point to be acting in bad faith.
just my uninformed take.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:56 pm to SDVTiger
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Nice melt over Bosa being a pussy
Do you work for the Chargers organization? Because this whole thread you've been trying to do your best spin job. I'm sorry your favorite team is being an arse about this situation, but you don't have to suck them off 100% of the time buddy.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:59 pm to TigerBait1127
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Just read the actual screenshot the Chargers put out
it tells me 1 extreme is true and it very well could be
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What a pathetic organization
it really could be that bad of a negotiation with his agent though. we'll see
if it is on the chargers he won't pay too dearly for it next year. if it's his agent, a new agent won't save him from sliding out of the first.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:00 pm to DelU249
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a new agent won't save him from sliding out of the first.
That wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing in the world for him
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:00 pm to monkeybutt
quote:It's every thread re Bosa. He's a bust, he's a pussy, he's weak, he's the worst pick the Chargers have ever made, etc etc etc.
Because this whole thread you've been trying to do your best spin job.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:01 pm to SDVTiger
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Nick Hardwick says the players all think Bosa is weak and shouldnt be concerned about offset cause he will get extended before year 5 if hes good.
Always a good thing to let your players publicly trash draft picks. Very professional.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:04 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:yeah but it requires you to stay healthy and perform
That wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing in the world for him
the offer that was pulled just required him to exist until the month of march
if i'm understanding things correctly. for me it's a wash long term if you're that awesome, so may as well start out comfortably
I would say the difference long term (if any) means you start out with better endorsements or endorsements...how many guys in 3rd round are going to be plugging subway their rookie year?
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 4:06 pm
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