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Posted on 2/3/13 at 6:14 am to
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 6:14 am to
Actually, he won zero Super Bowls without Belichick.

That's a more relevant statement.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 6:16 am to
Beat me to it.

And yeah, I find the lack of quality trolling disturbing.
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 8:58 am to
God people are dumb
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 9:04 am to
I wouldn't go as far as the OP, but Parcells didn't win a single playoff game with any team he was with for his final 15 years.

But he always was able to keep that label of the guy who could come in and build a team blah blah blah.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 9:06 am to
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This guy brought the Jets to relevance. Brought the Cowboys to relevance during a shite period and need I remind you, was there for the emergence of Romo. 
shouldn't a mastermind enable to do more than being a team to "relevance"?

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Always adapted

You can argue LOTS of positives for parcells, but IMO you can't possibly make that argument.

He did not adapt one bit. Look at the Miami years. He tried to build a ground and pound team that would beat you by scoring 16 points and kicking a ton of field goals. He did that in a time of the most prolific passing we've ever seen.

He didn't adapt one bit with Miami, not in the least.
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 9:08 am
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 9:19 am to
It's fun to hate on people sometimes on message boards, but shitting on Bill fricking Parcells? The guy is a no brainer for the HOF. Ridiculous post. I really hope this is a troll attempt, but I have my doubts.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61035 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 9:22 am to
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Of all the people who were HOF finalists, he was CLEARLY the least deserving. If he is such a great personnel guy, why did he suck so badly when he tried to run the show in Dallas and Miami?


He is not going in as a GM, he is going in as a coach.
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 9:24 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 9:29 am to
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He is not going in as a GM, he is going in as a coach.

And therein is the difference.

But like I was saying, he got wayyyyyy too much credit as a GM IMO, mostly based on his coaching success from the 90s.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 9:55 am to
why are sports fans the biggest haters on the planet????


Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 9:59 am to
parcells is a great team builder, and it doesn't take long. coaches after him inherited his built up teams and got a lot of success from it.

New England - to the Super Bowl
Jets - if not for Vinny's injury, they go to the SB
Dallas - was getting there until Jones interfered, asserting Romo as a QB and TO on the team. you now see why he didn't want either one.

not that good of a job with the Dolphins, better as a coach. maybe the hands on part.

Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 10:10 am to
He built a pretty good team in Dallas
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61035 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 10:12 am to
quote:

he got wayyyyyy too much credit as a GM IMO,


I'm not sure I remember him getting a lot of credit as a GM. I know Young got the credit for building the 80's teams.

I do find it interesting that while he won everywhere he coached, he got progressively "worse". He won 2 SB's with the NYG. Lost a SB with NE, lost the AFC CG with the Jets, lost in the playoffs with Dallas.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 10:32 am to
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Jets - if not for Vinny's injury, they go to the SB


Based on what? He was injured in week 1
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13822 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:07 am to
First to coach 4 different teams in the playoffs, went to 3 Super Bowls winning 2 of them. Had best 2 year turnaround with the Jets that went 1-15, to 9-7 and 12-4. Pretty good coach in my opinion, not the best ever, but solid.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172803 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:40 am to
was he the one who picked terry glenn out of the womenz section?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:35 pm to
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only a troll or tool would think otherwise.


We could quite possibly have both here...
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Actually, he won zero Super Bowls without Belichick.



Bill Walsh won zero Super Bowls without George Seifert. So what's the point of this?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:38 pm to
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Bill Walsh won zero Super Bowls without George Seifert. So what's the point of this?



Yeah, I don't get this argument.

I'm not going to punish someone because they recognize great talent and hold on to it.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61496 posts
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:50 pm to
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Dallas - was getting there until Jones interfered, asserting Romo as a QB and TO on the team. you now see why he didn't want either one.


Bill didn't have an issue with Romo as the starter. He just didn't like the media circus that started to build around him.

Bill was way more pissed that he had to use Quincy Carter as his QB b/c of Jerry and absolutely hated getting TO forced on him.
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