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Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:57 am to xiv
i dont give a shite what the expansion terms are...i didn't read this thread...in order to be a BCS conference, IMO, a conference championship should be mandatory. teams like USC and OSU get off easy every year.
and before you say they dont, consider the SEC where the top two teams in conference have to play an extra top 10 team every year.
and before you say they dont, consider the SEC where the top two teams in conference have to play an extra top 10 team every year.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 12:58 am to xiv
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Central: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Purdue
Michigan approves.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 7:25 am to ProjectP2294
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Mizzou is most likely to join out there IMO.
I doubt it, they are set up pretty well in the Big XII north. All their old Big 8 foes are there, plus they play Illinois regularly anyway bolstering their OOC schedule.
Actually, Missouri is a good fit, the Big Ten would like to bring in the Kansas City TV market. Missouri has been talked about for awhile and so has West Virgina. Notre Dame, does not want in, and Cincy wont be either.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 7:27 am to Muahahaha
It's all about the money. Rutgers will bring in the NY market. New Jersey is contigous with Pennsylvania. Cincinnati has a great team this year but the overall University does not match up to Rutgers,
Posted on 9/29/09 at 7:28 am to xiv
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West
Auburn
Bama
LSU
East
Florida
UGA
Tennessee
You're really not trying to push Tennessee, Auburn and Georgia as "elite" teams, are you? They go up and down more than a yo-yo. Alabama just became "elite" again last year and they lost to freaking Utah.
I'll give you LSU and Florida but those two have both had 4+ loss seasons in the last two years and LSU is the ultimate in being either very good or just average. Either they're at the top or they're middle of the pack.
The SEC always has 2-3 teams in a given season that can be called elite but they're hardly programs that are year in, year out top 5 teams like USC has been this decade.
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 7:34 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 7:38 am to VABuckeye
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i dont give a shite what the expansion terms are...i didn't read this thread...in order to be a BCS conference, IMO, a conference championship should be mandatory. teams like USC and OSU get off easy every year.
and before you say they dont, consider the SEC where the top two teams in conference have to play an extra top 10 team every year.
Apparently you don't read much of anything.
Try reading the NCAA rules. The Big Ten and PAC 10 are currently prohibited from playing a conference championship game. There must be 12 teams in a conference to play the game.
The SEC conference championship game is about nothing but money and getting an SEC team into the BCSCG and don't kid yourself that it isn't. Without that game Florida in 2006 and LSU in 2007 wouldn't have sniffed the BCS championship game. You should be happy the Big Ten and PAC 10 (in particular) don't have a conference championship game as USC would have gotten at least one of those slots (IMO).
Posted on 9/29/09 at 8:22 am to VABuckeye
First off the Big Ten bylaws state that for a university to be accpeted to the conference it needs to border an existing Big Ten state and meet the academic standards of the Big Ten. This immediately eliminates Cincinnati and Pittsburgh by academic standards. OSU and PSU would block those moves anyway. The Big Ten will not add Iowa State because they bring zero to the conference. There really is only 4 schools that the Big Ten will ever really consider Notre Dame, Missouri, West Virginia and Kentucky. Notre Dame is the logical and smart choice but ND continues to think they are special. The NCAA needs to force them into a conference. The Big Ten would then have a balanced and perfect alignment for a championship game.
EAST:
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
WEST:
Notre Dame
Illinois
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern
With that alignment you would keep ALL the rivalries. OSU-UM, OSU-PSU, PSU-UM, PSU-MSU, UM-MSU, IU-PU from the east. ILL-NU, Minny-Wisky, IA-ILL from the west. Of course this would make WAAAYYY too much sense, but thats what you get when you are dealing with ND.....and they wonder why everybody despises them?
EAST:
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
WEST:
Notre Dame
Illinois
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern
With that alignment you would keep ALL the rivalries. OSU-UM, OSU-PSU, PSU-UM, PSU-MSU, UM-MSU, IU-PU from the east. ILL-NU, Minny-Wisky, IA-ILL from the west. Of course this would make WAAAYYY too much sense, but thats what you get when you are dealing with ND.....and they wonder why everybody despises them?
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 8:23 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:03 am to Buckeye Backer
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First off the Big Ten bylaws state that for a university to be accpeted to the conference it needs to border an existing Big Ten state and meet the academic standards of the Big Ten. This immediately eliminates Cincinnati and Pittsburgh by academic standards. OSU and PSU would block those moves anyway. The Big Ten will not add Iowa State because they bring zero to the conference. There really is only 4 schools that the Big Ten will ever really consider Notre Dame, Missouri, West Virginia and Kentucky. Notre Dame is the logical and smart choice but ND continues to think they are special. The NCAA needs to force them into a conference. The Big Ten would then have a balanced and perfect alignment for a championship game.
This is well said. However, I doubt Kentucky will ever leave the SEC; too prestegious of a conference.
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:14 am to Muahahaha
I doubt that Kentucky does either. By looking at the surrounding state schools, they are just one from a BCS conference....though the thought of an IU-KU rivalry in basketball could consider them to maybe at least think about it. In my honest opinion, i think in the current situation, West Virginia is the best bet. People keep forgetting that the Big East is a 16 member school in basketball. Joining the Big Ten would make West Virginia not only championship competitive in football but in basketball as well. The BE in basketball is a juggernaut. I still want ND though. Having OSU, UM, PSU and ND would give you 4 of the winningest institutions in all of college football. Thats hard to go against if you are the Big 10!!
This post was edited on 9/29/09 at 9:16 am
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:25 am to Buckeye Backer
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First off the Big Ten bylaws state that for a university to be accpeted to the conference it needs to border an existing Big Ten state and meet the academic standards of the Big Ten. This immediately eliminates Cincinnati and Pittsburgh by academic standards. OSU and PSU would block those moves anyway. The Big Ten will not add Iowa State because they bring zero to the conference. There really is only 4 schools that the Big Ten will ever really consider Notre Dame, Missouri, West Virginia and Kentucky. Notre Dame is the logical and smart choice but ND continues to think they are special. The NCAA needs to force them into a conference. The Big Ten would then have a balanced and perfect alignment for a championship game.
How does Pitt not meet the academic standards of the Big 10?
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:31 am to whatabeast
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How does Pitt not meet the academic standards of the Big 10?
The bigger question would be under what criteria would WVU meet the academic standards of the Big Ten.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:33 am to VABuckeye
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The bigger question would be under what criteria would WVU meet the academic standards of the Big Ten.
they measure the IQ of the university versus the IQ of the general population of the state, that's the only criteria that West Virginia could possibly be admitted under.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:42 am to ProjectP2294
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Academically, Pitt would meet the standards of the Big Ten. Im wrong in this case and ill admit it. However, Pitt still would have an uphill battle to get into the Big 10. They dont have their own stadium, and again...Penn St would never allow it to happen.
Academically, Pitt would meet the standards of the Big Ten. Im wrong in this case and ill admit it. However, Pitt still would have an uphill battle to get into the Big 10. They dont have their own stadium, and again...Penn St would never allow it to happen.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:43 am to Buckeye Backer
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They dont have their own stadium
neither did Minnesota til this year
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:46 am to Buckeye Backer
All Big10 schools must be members of the "Association of American Universities". Pitt, Rutgers, Mizzou are all members. ND, Cinci, WVU are not.
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Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:47 am to ProjectP2294
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neither did Minnesota til this year
They did once upon a time though, and did when they joined the conference. Not sure if the stadium argument is a legit one though.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:54 am to SprintFun
Im sure the Big 10 could make an exception for ND as its one of the best educations that can be offered.
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:57 am to Buckeye Backer
of course they can.......they already have northwestern. ND will never do it though.....why would they want to?
Posted on 9/29/09 at 9:58 am to SprintFun
ND is not a member of the AAU and they were asked to join. I think the AAU membership is highly desired, but not absolutely mandatory to be in the big ten. I believed that under the proposed agreement ND would have agreed to do what is necessary to gain membership in the AAU if it had joined the big ten.
Rutgers and Maryland have been discussed as being asked to join the big ten. They both are in the AAU and would bring big markets to the conference. ND would have to ask to join the big ten now. No way they ask ND again.
Rutgers and Maryland have been discussed as being asked to join the big ten. They both are in the AAU and would bring big markets to the conference. ND would have to ask to join the big ten now. No way they ask ND again.
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