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re: Big 12 Votes to Unanimously Accept Cincinnati, UCF, BYU and Houston

Posted on 9/10/21 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by SBC
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 3:12 pm to
That is not a Power 5 conference
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:10 pm to
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A decent conference but they don't deserve an auto NY6 bid
with the new playoff and NY6 bowl structure, does any conference have an auto bid anywhere anymore?
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:16 pm to
A lot of talk about P4 and such. It’s all a guessing game until a Big 12 school goes undefeated and the playoff committee decides what to do. If they get in, then Obviously the Big 12 is P5. If not , it’s P4 .
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:17 pm to
Whats going to determine the new status is who gets an auto playoff spot and who doesnt
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:18 pm to
Yeah, the Big 12 lacks the blue blood anchor programs, but I could definitely see it outperforming and PAC 12 and/or the ACC fairly often.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:20 pm to
From an article posted by the Athletic

AP Poll Appearances from 2011 to 2020

ACC: 556
New Big 12: 552

Keep in mind that the ACC added its 13th and 14th teams in 2013. Plus this figure includes 17 appearances by Notre Dame last year
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:22 pm to
Wonder why no USF as well. They’re a giant school as well and having a bigger footprint in Florida wouldn’t be a bad thing.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:23 pm to
I don't accept that this is a power conference, but I don't accept that it isn't, either. It seems a lot better than the old Big East which was part of the BCS formula.

All of these schools have fielded legitimately top-10 teams in the last decade or so:

Cincinnati
BYU
TCU
Baylor
UCF
Houston
Oklahoma State

Iowa State is top 10 right now.

I mean, it's not elite, but it's interesting.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:23 pm to
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It’s all a guessing game until a Big 12 school goes undefeated and the playoff committee decides what to do


*if the playoff remains 4 teams
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:25 pm to
Its the best of the other conferences by a healthy margin and the money being rumored will prove that. But its going to be falling further and further behind the other 4 and I seriously doubt they get an auto spot in the expanded playoff
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:45 pm to
It’s a better conference than the PAC. Only reason ACC isn’t way behind is Clemson.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:49 pm to
That may be but it really doesn't matter. A conference with USC and UCLA and Washington and Oregon is going to have a seat at the table unless they all go to the B1G
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:50 pm
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:53 pm to
Btw, I like these divisions:

Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:58 pm to
The Big Meh
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:10 pm to
The ACC has recent National Championship football programs. The new Big 12 will have zero. There is your major difference right off the bat
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:12 pm to
Big 12 looking strong. I can totally see why OSU, ISU and them rejected Big 10 and Pac 12 to stay in the Big 12.
Posted by floridatigah
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Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:55 pm to
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The ACC has recent National Championship football programs. The new Big 12 will have zero. There is your major difference right off the bat


You must have missed UCF winning one in 2017
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:57 pm to
Big 12 is now a basketball conference
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52755 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 6:01 pm to
Maybe the best
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 6:02 pm to
Wouldn’t mind if Tulane got an invite.
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